[78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953

Wed Feb 17 12:56:20 PST 2016

That stuff also appeared on the 7-inchers..I'm still convinced they were from the same company.

dl

> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:48:30 -0800
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> From: craigventresco at gmail.com.invalid
> Subject: Re: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> 
> 
> I mis-worded that...--I don't know if Vincent had anything to do w the 7"
> Voices of the Past records..I meant that he produced at least one lp of
> "Voices From the Past"-type records featuring Barnum, Florence Nightingale,
> etc in the 50's.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 12:44 PM, David Lennick <
> dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Those "Voices of the Past" were 7-inch single sided discs. I've often
> > suspected they were produced by the same forces behind Audio Archives.
> > Run-out grooves not closed (as with Audio Archives). Many sounded as if
> > they were cut direct to disc without tape, like the Edgar Wallace "Man in
> > the Ditch" which has close to 30 seconds silence between the two 78 sides
> > (or it seems that way in memory).
> >
> > dl
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:28:40 -0800
> > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > From: craigventresco at gmail.com.invalid
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> > >
> > >
> > > Vincent supposedly had a large collection of recordings by famous
> > > people...I have seen a newspaper article about him a long long time ago
> > > ..and I recall seeing a picture of him with part of his cylinder
> > > collection. He also produced lp's featuring these "Voices from the
> > past". I
> > > have the 10" Handy lp and it is really a great record..
> > >
> > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 7:41 PM, David Lennick <
> > > dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have Lost Sounds here. It says that G. Robert Vincent, previously
> > > > associated with V-Disc, recorded Handy's reminiscences  and had him
> > play
> > > > trumpet and guitar, as well as a couple of versions of St. Louis Blues
> > with
> > > > Handy's daughter Katherine Handy Lewis, Dr. Charles L. Cooke and the
> > New
> > > > York Choral Ensemble. Audio Archives was Vincent's label and its name
> > was
> > > > changed to Heritage in late 1953.
> > > >
> > > > dl
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 20:25:22 -0500
> > > > > From: sternth at attglobal.net.invalid
> > > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Roger, thanks for the Varsity session information!
> > > > >
> > > > > The 1952/53 recordings were also released on MARK56 684 Lp in 1975 as
> > > > >  St.Louis Blues: W.C.Handy narrates and sings.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I found the following reference:
> > > > > CHICAGO PUBLIC LIBRARY
> > > > > Richard Durham Papers
> > > > > Box 15 12 September 12, 1948 Destination Freedom Radio Broadcast W.C.
> > > > Handy
> > > > > "Father of the Blues"
> > > > > Richard Durham created Destination Freedom , a groundbreaking radio
> > > > series
> > > > > that dramatized the struggle for civil rights in America. Destination
> > > > > Freedom aired on WMAQ, a Chicago radio station, on Sunday mornings
> > from
> > > > 1948
> > > > > to 1950. In March 2005, Clarice Durham donated the 91 audiotapes to
> > the
> > > > > Museum of Broadcast Communications.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have access to this collection - perhaps it is the source of
> > the
> > > > > recording ?????????
> > > > >
> > > > > If anyone has TIM BROOKs' LOST SOUNDS at hand, there may be something
> > > > about
> > > > > the recording as
> > > > > google finds a footnote about it, but does not show the text
> > footnoted.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes, Thomas.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Rodger
> > Holtin
> > > > 78-L
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 11:28 PM
> > > > > To: 78-L Mail List
> > > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, so we've established that the DRG album was a reissue of
> > Heritage and
> > > > > Audio Archive records. So, who assembled Mr Handy with the chorus and
> > > > > pianists to make the original recordings, when, where and why?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent from my iPhone, which explainz any bad typjng and nonsensical
> > word
> > > > > choices.
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Feb 13, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Thomas Stern
> > > > <sternth at attglobal.net.invalid>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > W.C. Handy - Father of The Blues
> > > > > > feat. W.C. Handy, Charles Cooke and Adele Brown Whitney (Pianos),
> > > > > > Katherine Handy (Vocal Soloist) Recorded on April 12th 1952 and
> > > > > > December 7th 1953.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Year: 1980
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Label: DRG [USA pressing]
> > > > > > Catalogue No: SL 5192
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Side One
> > > > > > Talk - The Ragtime Era
> > > > > > "Joe Turner"
> > > > > > Talk - Memphis Blues
> > > > > > "Mr. Crump"
> > > > > > Talk - The Blues
> > > > > > "Way Down South Where The Blues Began"
> > > > > > Reflections
> > > > > > "They So In Tears Shall Weep In Joy"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Side Two
> > > > > > "Beale Street Blues"
> > > > > > Talk - Lincoln Jubilee Exhibition
> > > > > > "Hail To The Spirit of Freedom"
> > > > > > Talk - Theodore Roosevelt
> > > > > > "The Big Stick Blues"
> > > > > > "St Louis Blues"
> > > > > > "St Louis Blues" - Katherine Handy
> > > > > > Closing: "I See Though My Eyes are Closed"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HERITAGE H 0052  Blues Revisited: W.C. Handy             10" 1953
> > > > > > St. Louis blues (opening) -- Mr. Crump -- Memphis blues -- Joe
> > Turner
> > > > --
> > > > > > Beale Street blues -- Loveless love -- Big stick blues (march) --
> > Way
> > > > down
> > > > > > south where the blues began -- St. Louis blues (closing).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > gatefold
> > > > > > 1952 "W.C. HANDY-FATHER OF THE BLUES" 33RPM LP AUDIO ARCHIVES
> > RECORDS
> > > > > A1200
> > > > > > Side one. Joe Turner, Mister Crump, Way Down South Where The Blues
> > > > Began
> > > > > and
> > > > > > They That Saw In Tears
> > > > > > Side two. Beale Street Blues, Aframerican Hymn, The Big Stick Blues
> > > > March,
> > > > > > St. Louis Blues, I See tho My Eyes Are Closed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of David
> > > > Lennick
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2016 10:49 PM
> > > > > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Probably
> > > > > >
> > > > > this.
> > > >
> > http://assets.rootsvinylguide.com/pictures/lp-w-c-handy-blues-revisited
> > > > > > -heritage-label-10_2247129
> > > > > > dl
> > > > > >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > > > >> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 18:34:37 -0600
> > > > > >> From: rjh334578 at gmail.com.invalid
> > > > > >> Subject: [78-L] WC Handy, 1952 & 1953
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Anybody know the original source?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> The link below is an LP of W. C. Handy, Father of the Blues, on
> > DRG
> > > > > >> Records
> > > > > >> SL5192
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > http://www.shugarecords.com/wc-handy-a-musical-autobiography-lp-sealed
> > > > > >> -sl-51
> > > > > >> 92-mono-vinyl-record
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Perhaps the liner notes on the back would tell me these things if
> > the
> > > > > >> photo was clearer.  I borrowed a copy and taped it ages ago, and
> > my
> > > > > >> notes from that have only dates, April 12, 1952 and December 7,
> > 1953.
> > > > > >> I feel sure had there been anything about original sources I would
> > > > have
> > > > > > noted that.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Were these radio programs, TV shows?  Some university's oral
> > history
> > > > > >> program?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I can find copies on eBay and found it in WorldCat, but nothing
> > to id
> > > > > >> the sources.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Rodger
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> For best results use Victor Needles
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
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