[78-L] Freddie Martin or Ed Kirkeby?

[Kristjan Saag]

Julian,
The 13317-1 is attributed to Rowland, at least in my 1975 edition of 
American Dance Band Discography.
And "Jazz Records" (1983) has Rowland on both recordings of "Remember My 
Forgotten Man" (13318-1 and 13319-1).
Kristjan

On 2014-10-12 22:32, Julian Vein wrote:
>
> On 12/10/14 16:25, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>> Rust lists the May 11 1933 ARC-Brunswick recording (mx 13317-1) of "I've
>> Got To Sing A Torch Song" both in "Jazz Records" and in "American Dance
>> Band Discography". In JR under Freddie Martin and in ADBD under
>> ARC-Brunswick Studio Bands. In both cases he mentions that one of the
>> issues (on Rex 8005) uses Ed Lloyd & His Band as pseudonym.
>> Mysteriously, though, under the Ed Lloyd & His Band heading in JR he
>> lists the Melotone issue of the song as by Freddy (sic) Martin and the
>> Rex issue as by Gene Kardos!
>> Ed Lloyd, however, was also used as a pseudonym for Ed Kirkeby & His
>> Orchestra and the song has now been issued on a digital album, "The
>> First Torch Singers, vol 2: 1930-34" (Take Two Records) as by Ed Kirkeby
>> & His Orchestra. It's also available on other digital compilations, some
>> of which only credit the vocalist (Helen Rowland) or even Victor Young
>> (who was the ARC-Brunswick Director of Light and Dance Music at the time).
>> Does anybody have a clue whom to credit: Kirkeby or Martin? Or perhaps
>> Kardos?
>> Kristjan
>>
>>
> ========================
> Kristjan,
> I wish you hadn't asked this question! I have this title with the
> Rowland vocal on Rex 8018 (not 8005) as by "Ed Lloyd & His Band". Also
> on Perfect as by "Ed Lloyd and His Orchestra". Additionally, I have the
> Les Reis version on Panachord 25548 as by "Allen Burns And His
> Orchestra". Both are listed in ADBORAF as by Freddy Martin. However,
> ADBORAF is in error in attributing the vocal on 13317-1 to Reis rather
> than Rowland. There is a note at the end of the session listing in
> ADBORAF, quote: "This session has been reported as 'possibly not Freddy
> Martin, but no alternative has been offered."
>
> My biggest puzzlement is why they would hire a male vocalist at the same
> session to sing "Remember My Forgotten Man", when Helen Rowland was
> going to record it. The only possibility I can think of is that, for
> some reason, they thought Rowland was not going to turn up, and they
> hired a male vocalist to stand in. Meanwhile, Rowland turned up, and
> having both vocalists on hand they decided to use both. There is a flaw
> in this argument, because Elmer Feldkamp was on the first title. The
> Reis versions were only issued in the UK, but that still doesn't explain
> anything.
>
> Anyone prepared to write a thesis on ARC/Brunswick's labelling and
> pseudonyms policies?
>
>        Julian Vein
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