[78-L] Best Cassette Machine

Dennis Flannigan dennis.flannigan at gmail.com.invalid
Mon Jul 28 13:56:10 PDT 2014


Strikes me that you may have the solution at home. Dub from your own
cassette deck
to hard disc, and clean up with the free program Audacity, which and alter
pitch, speed,
and a host of other options. I have a thousand or so cassettes, and many
are worth preserving,
and I would use my current deck to transfer them, and Audacity to improve.

Dennis


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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 19:55:16 -0500
> From: Mark Bardenwerper <citrogsa at charter.net.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] Edison Sleeve Notes
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> Just curious,
> Has anyone started an Edison Diamond Disk sleeve note database or list?
> I have a few. They do contain some interesting information. For
> instance, I did not know that the music for "Onward Christian Soldiers"
> was written by Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan. I would be glad to make
> scans of them or perhaps just add the text.
>
> --
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> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:03:34 -0700
> From: DAVID BURNHAM <burnhamd at rogers.com.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Edison Sleeve Notes
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> Sullivan's other big non-Gilbert hit was "The Lost Chord". ?I guess you
> could also say "Hail, Hail the gang's all here..", is also a non-Gilbert
> hit since Gilbert didn't write those words.
>
> db
>
>
> On Sunday, July 27, 2014 8:55:31 PM, Mark Bardenwerper
> <citrogsa at charter.net.invalid> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >Just curious,
> >Has anyone started an Edison Diamond Disk sleeve note database or list?
> >I have a few. They do contain some interesting information. For
> >instance, I did not know that the music for "Onward Christian Soldiers"
> >was written by Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan. I would be glad to make
> >scans of them or perhaps just add the text.
> >
> >--
> >Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 02:31:24 -0400
> From: Sammy Jones <sjones69 at bellsouth.net.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] Best Cassette Machine?
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> Mike Biel was talking about cassettes and cassette machines on his radio
> show on YesterdayUSA tonight.
>
> It reminded me that I really need to do something about my small (but
> unique) collection of homemade cassettes.
>
> What is the wisdom of this group about the best machine to get?  I have a
> Tascam 122.  Is it worth it to upgrade to something?
>
> Sammy Jones
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:27:29 -0500
> From: "jsalerno at earthlink.net" <jsalerno at earthlink.net.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Best Cassette Machine?
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> Perhaps if you gave more details about the content of your cassettes,
> other than being home made.
>
> Do they contain music? Or just spoken voice?
>
> Were they recorded on decent equipment of the day (whatever decent
> means) or on battery operated machines?
>
> Joe Salerno
>
> On 7/28/2014 1:31 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> >
> > Mike Biel was talking about cassettes and cassette machines on his radio
> > show on YesterdayUSA tonight.
> >
> > It reminded me that I really need to do something about my small (but
> > unique) collection of homemade cassettes.
> >
> > What is the wisdom of this group about the best machine to get?  I have a
> > Tascam 122.  Is it worth it to upgrade to something?
> >
> > Sammy Jones
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 10:08:59 -0400
> From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at verizon.net.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] FW:  Edison Sleeve Notes
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> I asked a good friend who is heavy into Edison material and here is his
> response.
> <snip>
> Dear Mr. Bardenwerper,
>
> Just received this inquiry from my friend. I only know of Mr. Charles
> Gregory's work (Books) on the Edison Paper Labels and Discography. He has
> issued in 2003 a near complete depiction of the Popular series
> (50001-52651)
> record labels. If you don't have them, he still has copies for sale. This
> set does not - to my finding - contain any of the liner notes from the
> record jackets, but has the catalogue and monthly supplements with written
> descriptions. Do these mirror what was put on the actual record jackets? I
> don't know. He also is still collecting and has issued an addendum for this
> series as well, which I have not purchased. He is also still working on the
> Light Classical - Classical and Operatic series of labels, which I believe
> is going to have the jacket liner notes included, because I know he wants
> to
> include the first jacket liner notes which were put on the first DDiscs
> which came in presentation boxes. I cannot say if they are going to include
> any of the popular series. I know I probably have a 100 or so myself and
> have sent him a couple which he needed. You may want to inquire directly
> with him at;  cgregory200 at comcast.net
>
> Leave me know how you make out.
>
> Best Regards!
>
> Kirk Bauer
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> <snip>
> > Just curious,
> > Has anyone started an Edison Diamond Disk sleeve note database or list?
> > I have a few. They do contain some interesting information. For
> > instance, I did not know that the music for "Onward Christian
> > Soldiers"
> > was written by Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan. I would be glad to
> > make scans of them or perhaps just add the text.
> >
> > --
> > Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 15:31:54 +0000
> From: Martin Fisher <Martin.Fisher at mtsu.edu.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] FW:  Edison Sleeve Notes
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> The closest thing I know of is Ron Dethlefson's companion book to "Edison
> Blue Amberol recordings" in which are reprinted a number of Blue Amberol
> record slips.  Information truly worth having access to.
>
> MF
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [mailto:
> 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Ron L'Herault
> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:09 AM
> To: '78-L Mail List'
> Subject: [78-L] FW: Edison Sleeve Notes
>
>
> I asked a good friend who is heavy into Edison material and here is his
> response.
> <snip>
> Dear Mr. Bardenwerper,
>
> Just received this inquiry from my friend. I only know of Mr. Charles
> Gregory's work (Books) on the Edison Paper Labels and Discography. He has
> issued in 2003 a near complete depiction of the Popular series
> (50001-52651) record labels. If you don't have them, he still has copies
> for sale. This set does not - to my finding - contain any of the liner
> notes from the record jackets, but has the catalogue and monthly
> supplements with written descriptions. Do these mirror what was put on the
> actual record jackets? I don't know. He also is still collecting and has
> issued an addendum for this series as well, which I have not purchased. He
> is also still working on the Light Classical - Classical and Operatic
> series of labels, which I believe is going to have the jacket liner notes
> included, because I know he wants to include the first jacket liner notes
> which were put on the first DDiscs which came in presentation boxes. I
> cannot say if they are going to include any of the popular ser
>  ies. I know I probably have a 100 or so myself and have sent him a couple
> which he needed. You may want to inquire directly with him at;
> cgregory200 at comcast.net
>
> Leave me know how you make out.
>
> Best Regards!
>
> Kirk Bauer
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> <snip>
> > Just curious,
> > Has anyone started an Edison Diamond Disk sleeve note database or list?
> > I have a few. They do contain some interesting information. For
> > instance, I did not know that the music for "Onward Christian
> > Soldiers"
> > was written by Sullivan of Gilbert and Sullivan. I would be glad to
> > make scans of them or perhaps just add the text.
> >
> > --
> > Mark L. Bardenwerper, Sr.
> >
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:28:52 -0400
> From: Sammy Jones <sjones69 at bellsouth.net.invalid>
> Subject: [78-L] Best Cassette Machine?
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> Joe,
>
> The content is mostly originals of my local big band radio show from 2001
> and 2001 (which I assure you, no one will want to hear but me...and even
> that's debatable!).  Also recordings of me and my brothers and cousins when
> we were kids, and some OTR shows.
>
> The big band airchecks were made on the station's Tascam with Dolby B, so
> the quality is pretty good.  I seem to remember that deck had some pitch
> problems, though.  Could probably be fixed with a deck with variable speed
> or in the digital domain.
>
> The homemade recordings were made on everything from a portable Panasonic
> recorder, a Radio Shack karaoke machine, to a Pioneer consumer cassette
> deck
> (that was actually pretty decent).  No Dolby on anything except the stuff
> made on the Pioneer.
>
> I stopped collecting OTR on cassettes many years ago, and have tried to
> replace important stuff with CDs.  I still like to listent to some old
> shows
> on cassette every once in a while, but those tapes are not at the top of my
> list for transfer.  Nothing unique there.
>
> A machine like the Tascam 122 is probably the range of machine I'm
> interested in.  Just wondering what the group's recommendations would be...
>
> Is a Nakamichi Dragon overkill?
>
> Sammy
>
>
> Perhaps if you gave more details about the content of your cassettes,
> other than being home made.
>
> Do they contain music? Or just spoken voice?
>
> Were they recorded on decent equipment of the day (whatever decent
> means) or on battery operated machines?
>
> Joe Salerno
>
> On 7/28/2014 1:31 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> >
> > Mike Biel was talking about cassettes and cassette machines on his radio
> > show on YesterdayUSA tonight.
> >
> > It reminded me that I really need to do something about my small (but
> > unique) collection of homemade cassettes.
> >
> > What is the wisdom of this group about the best machine to get?  I have a
> > Tascam 122.  Is it worth it to upgrade to something?
> >
> > Sammy Jones
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 12:00:52 -0500
> From: "jsalerno at earthlink.net" <jsalerno at earthlink.net.invalid>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Best Cassette Machine?
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> That helps, Sammy.
>
> I have a TASCAM 102, and it's good (not great). Flutter is not as low as
> my Sony ES deck. For music, of course a low flutter spec is desirable.
> For the tapes recorded on portable machines, I don't imagine it would
> make a whole lot of difference. The music tapes may be the deciding
> factor, but if only you are going to hear them, you may have to decide
> if it is worth it to you. Maybe it is if you have money burning a hole
> in your pocket.
>
> My formula is to divide the number of HQ tapes to Xfer into the
> difference in price of an inexpensive machine and the better one. That's
> how much the better machine is costing you per tape Xfer.
>
> A Naka would be sweet, but could be expensive, and if it needs repair,
> is there someone near you who could do it?
>
> Joe Salerno
>
> On 7/28/2014 11:28 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > The content is mostly originals of my local big band radio show from 2001
> > and 2001 (which I assure you, no one will want to hear but me...and even
> > that's debatable!).  Also recordings of me and my brothers and cousins
> when
> > we were kids, and some OTR shows.
> >
> > The big band airchecks were made on the station's Tascam with Dolby B, so
> > the quality is pretty good.  I seem to remember that deck had some pitch
> > problems, though.  Could probably be fixed with a deck with variable
> speed
> > or in the digital domain.
> >
> > The homemade recordings were made on everything from a portable Panasonic
> > recorder, a Radio Shack karaoke machine, to a Pioneer consumer cassette
> deck
> > (that was actually pretty decent).  No Dolby on anything except the stuff
> > made on the Pioneer.
> >
> > I stopped collecting OTR on cassettes many years ago, and have tried to
> > replace important stuff with CDs.  I still like to listent to some old
> shows
> > on cassette every once in a while, but those tapes are not at the top of
> my
> > list for transfer.  Nothing unique there.
> >
> > A machine like the Tascam 122 is probably the range of machine I'm
> > interested in.  Just wondering what the group's recommendations would
> be...
> >
> > Is a Nakamichi Dragon overkill?
> >
> > Sammy
> >
> >
> > Perhaps if you gave more details about the content of your cassettes,
> > other than being home made.
> >
> > Do they contain music? Or just spoken voice?
> >
> > Were they recorded on decent equipment of the day (whatever decent
> > means) or on battery operated machines?
> >
> > Joe Salerno
> >
> > On 7/28/2014 1:31 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> Mike Biel was talking about cassettes and cassette machines on his radio
> >> show on YesterdayUSA tonight.
> >>
> >> It reminded me that I really need to do something about my small (but
> >> unique) collection of homemade cassettes.
> >>
> >> What is the wisdom of this group about the best machine to get?  I have
> a
> >> Tascam 122.  Is it worth it to upgrade to something?
> >>
> >> Sammy Jones
> >>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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