[78-L] Egad..a quiet English 78 pressing!

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca.invalid
Tue Jun 24 06:19:45 PDT 2014


The Canadian ones were pretty good unless they had to work from a bad original. 
Sandie Shaw's "Puppet On A String" sounded like short wave. Not that tape 
sources were perfect either..Graham Newton swears that RCA's tape transports 
were properly calibrated and checked regularly, but I often found that RCA's 
Canadian-cut classical lps ran close to a half minute longer per side than the 
American issues.

On a related subject, does anyone know if Savoy was having its Gospel 78s for 
the US market pressed in Canada? I've handled several lately, from as late as 
1958, and they appear to have been cut by Mercury (same font used for the 
matrix numbers) and they feel as if they were pressed by Quality in Toronto. 
Same vinyl, same sharp edges, an X-20 code in the land. Savoy's Canadian pop 
and R&B issues were handled by London, which used Compo, but these are for the 
US market. It's as if nobody was pressing 78s in the US by this time.

dl

On 6/24/2014 9:08 AM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>
> The Norwegians even engraved "dub" in handwriting in the runout area of
> the dub pressings.
> Kristjan
>
> On 2014-06-24 14:57, David Lennick wrote:
>>
>> Guess what..that happened in Canada as well. Many 45 masters were dubbed from
>> US pressings in the 60s and probably earlier. Some late Canadian 78 issues were
>> obviously dubbed from 45s, with wow to prove it.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 6/24/2014 6:20 AM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>>>
>>> One of the reasons why Scandinavian pressings can be better than UK
>>> pressings is that the number of copies made from the matrices usually
>>> was very low.
>>> On the other hand: in the late 1960's it was revealed that Norwegian EMI
>>> (or it's predecessor, to be exact - the Norwegian branch of EMI was
>>> founded in 1969) had dubbed vinyl discs instead of using matrices for
>>> some of the Norwegian issues of popular 45's...
>>> Kristjan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2014-06-24 04:27, David Lennick wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Explains why it's quiet, then..it ISN'T an English pressing.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> On 6/23/2014 8:54 PM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The Norwegian Columbia GN 1167 was issued in 1950. At the time Columbia
>>>>> was distributed in Norway by Iversen&    Frogh A/S who also handled Odeon
>>>>> and Parlophone. These labels had their own pressing plant in Olso.
>>>>> Kristjan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-06-24 00:07, David Lennick wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for this info. The disc's owner had it tagged as Co(Den) and nothing on
>>>>>> the label provided the correct country, since it still said Columbia
>>>>>> Graphophone Company. Definitely appears to be a 40s EMI pressing unless Norway
>>>>>> did its own pressings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dl
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/23/2014 4:59 PM, Per Ahlin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Columbia prefixes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DD = Danish
>>>>>>> DS = Swedish
>>>>>>> DY = Finnish
>>>>>>> GN = Norwegian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So Columbia GN 1167 is Norwegian, not Danish.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Per Ahlin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Will wonders never cease. Even though it was pressed in England, it's
>>>>>>>> Danish Columbia GN 1167, The Golden Gate Quartet. Late 40s, VG+
>>>>>>>> condition, some rubs, but quiet surfaces! Again, presumably getting
>>>>>>>> the record away from the English climate is the reason.....?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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