[78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)

eugene hayhoe jazzme48912 at yahoo.com
Wed Mar 19 06:30:41 PDT 2014


Anyone here know about Jimmy Wright & Porky Harris?


http://bebopwinorip.blogspot.com/2008/11/jimmy-wright-let-go-crazy-crazy-baby_3405.html


http://www.mikebloomfieldamericanmusic.com/interview3.htm

http://rrhhww.blogspot.com/2009/01/porky-harris-his-fantabulous-five.html


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On Wed, 3/19/14, eugene hayhoe <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott, was Arnold Covey)
 To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
 Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 9:08 AM
 
 Chronology doesn't matter, eh? 'The
 event that happened later was the first.'
 
 Seems to me that Carl Perkins knew something about the
 truth:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yINTIlkc70M
 ''All my friends are boppin' the blues, it must be goin'
 'round...''
 
 I've no problems with Presley, I just know that 'even he
 knew he wasn't the first.'
 
 http://yellowdogrecords.com/calvinnewborn/calvin_newborn_biography.html
 
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 On Wed, 3/19/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was: Escott,
 was Arnold Covey)
  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
  Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 8:53 AM
  
  Buddy Holly said he was the first
  
  Roy Orbison stated the same as John Lennon...
  
  Jackie Wilson: "blacks stole more form Elvis then the
 other
  way around.."
  
  Somehow I trust the opinions of the above mentioned
  gentlemen a bit more
  then what is thrown around here..
  
  
  
  
  On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:45 PM, eugene hayhoe <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com>wrote:
  
  > ''The train I ride, 16 couches long...''
  >
  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghv498qwuiY
  > Mystery Train, Junior Parker
  >
  > 'Junior Parker, not particularly marketable to white
  teen girls in 1950s
  > America,' LOL.
  >
  > As for the musical elements, 'they are all there.'
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > --------------------------------------------
  > On Wed, 3/19/14, Erwin Kluwer <ekluwer at gmail.com>
  wrote:
  >
  >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll rising (was:
  Escott, was Arnold Covey)
  >  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
  >  Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2014, 8:34 AM
  >
  >  to me rock n roll is almost more
  >  informed an attitude then a pure musical
  >  style;;
  >
  >  and there was only ONE who had it ALL together in
  summer of
  >  1954 (the
  >  clothes,good looks,  the attitude, the
  moves, that NEW
  >  sound...a band
  >  sound  new so cool, streamlined..
  >
  >  Elvis is man who started it..
  >
  >
  >  On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:46 PM, eugene hayhoe
  <jazzme48912 at yahoo.com
  > >wrote:
  >
  >  > And then, of course, going back to Sun,
  there are the
  >  numerous pre-Presley
  >  > Sun sides that were templates for late '60s
  >  'blues/rock' like James
  >  > Cotton's Cotton Crop Blues, Wolf's How Many
  More Years?
  >  and numerous of
  >  > Junior Parker's Sun recordings to name just
  a
  >  few.   From what I've read,
  >  > Hendrix's use of the name  'the Blue
  Flames' was
  >  in direct homage to Parker
  >  > and his records.
  >  >
  >  >
  >  > I'd also say 'let's not forget the Ravens'
  when it
  >  comes to 'r&b/country
  >  > crossover.'
  >  >
  >  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQACHFa3SBU
  >  > Rooster
  >  >
  >  >
  >  >
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  >  > On Tue, 3/18/14, Joe Scott <joenscott at mail.com>
  >  wrote:
  >  >
  >  >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll
  rising (was:
  >  Escott, was Arnold Covey)
  >  >  To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
  >  >  Date: Tuesday, March 18, 2014, 12:06
  PM
  >  >
  >  >   ----- Original Message
  -----
  >  >  From: eugene hayhoe
  >  >  Sent: 03/17/14 05:53 PM
  >  >  To: 78-L Mail List
  >  >  Subject: Re: [78-L] Rock & Roll
  rising (was:
  >  Escott, was
  >  >  Arnold Covey)
  >  >
  >  >  Country's here, so is Wynonie -
  >  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR_A4Su-TrI Hank
  >  Penny's
  >  >  Bloodshot EyesFrom a few years after
  their
  >  formation on,
  >  >  King assigned songs they controlled to
  artists
  >  without
  >  >  worrying about the origins of the
  songs (for
  >  financial
  >  >  reasons), which is something Louis
  Jordan had not
  >  been
  >  >  worrying about for years too. But
  there was
  >  rarely much
  >  >  "hillbilly" about the performances by
  the black
  >  artists in
  >  >  those situations during that period
  (as an aside,
  >  imo even
  >  >  Otis Blackwell's conscious attempts to
  sound
  >  somewhat
  >  >  hillbilly about '52 didn't sound all
  that
  >  >  hillbilly).Paralleling Cary's point
  that if a
  >  hillbilly band
  >  >  added a saxophonist, that's a clue
  they were
  >  interested in
  >  >  R&B, when a black band added
  >  hillbilly-associated
  >  >  instrumentation that was a clue they
  were
  >  interested in
  >  >  hillbilly music, e.g. steel guitar on
  Buddy
  >  Lucas's
  >  >  "Undecided" in about '51 -- but that
  approach was
  >  very rare
  >  >  in black music during '45-'49. E.g.
  there were
  >  tons of
  >  >  blacks who rememb
  >  >   ered how to play the fiddle
  as of the
  >  late '40s and the
  >  >  opportunity to do so on R&B
  records was
  >  almost zero, in
  >  >  contrast to greater use of fiddle back
  when Big
  >  Joe Williams
  >  >  began recording and earlier. Roy
  Milton recorded
  >  a nice
  >  >  "Along The Navajo Trail" in actual
  hillbillyish
  >  style
  >  >  (unlike e.g. Wynonie imo) in about
  '47, Specialty
  >  didn't
  >  >  bother to put it out at the
  time.Joseph Scott
  >  > 
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