[78-L] Flexo Record questions

[Dave Burnham]

That seems strange!  Surely the runout groove is usually played after a needle has played the record. 

db

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> On Mar 15, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
> Seems to me Victor Tungstone needles recommended the runout as well.  That
> way you are dealing with grooves that have not been damaged as much by worn
> needles and you have little  danger of getting into the good part of the
> disk while trying to prepare the needle.
> 
> Ron L
> 
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> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com
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> 
> Yes, that much I know but did not state clearly in the post. What I hadn't
> seen was instructions to wear the thing in properly at the end of the record
> before playing. Why not at the beginning? Seems like an inconvenience. Would
> the inside grooves be any different? (Other than slower surface speed.) Or
> does this refer to a center start record? 
> (which Flexo did make, I have learned)
> 
> So I assume Flexos were produced in pretty much the same way as any other
> record, just the record material is different. Maybe a little quicker to
> cool in the press...
> 
> js
> 
>> On 3/14/2014 9:43 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:
>> Probably to wear it to the right shape/"deburr" it.
>> 
>> Ron L
>> 
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>> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 6:13 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Flexo Record questions
>> 
>> Come to think, I did see a 16" Flexo at Kurt's once upon a time. I 
>> don't remember what it contained. I do recall that it seemed rather
> curled.
>> 
>> The label and the little insert that I discovered after I posted do 
>> say that a new steel needle is OK, but not one that has been used 
>> previously on a shellac record. It also suggests letting it ride thru 
>> the quiet inner grooves just a little bit before playing the record 
>> (outside start). Never saw this before.
>> 
>> joe salerno
>> 
>>> On 3/14/2014 3:14 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> They did indeed do vanity records, radio transcriptions (imagine a 
>>> 16-incher..I've transferred one), promos, giveaways, and I don't 
>>> think the steel needle did that much damage. Warped edges are more of a
> problem.
>>> http://78rpmrecord.com/flexo.htm
>>> 
>>> dl
>>> 
>>>> On 3/14/2014 4:08 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Just acquired my first Flexo Record. This is a 10" record "Recorded 
>>>> and Produced by UNITY SCHOOL OF CHRISTIANITY (Record Dept.) 917 
>>>> Tracy, Kansas City, Mo.
>>>> 
>>>> Original sleeve too, although it is torn. "Play With New Steel Needle"
>>>> it says, and "Keep Record Lying Flat"
>>>> 
>>>> 406-A is A MESSAGE OF JOY In My Neighbor's Garden (Nevin) Piano 
>>>> Interpretation by Mrs. Arthur Comstock. 406-B, by the same 
>>>> performer, is A MESSAGE OF PEACE Adagio from Sonata Pathetique 
>>>> (Beethoven)
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't played it yet.
>>>> 
>>>> Is this a vanity record? Why produce a vanity record as a Flexo 
>>>> instead of the usual shellac? I assume this is not breakable, and 
>>>> has a  quieter surface. Other advantages?
>>>> 
>>>> Would a steel needle not wear out such a record? It certainly is 
>>>> soft, and  apparently warpable, hence the admonition to keep it 
>>>> lying flat. It also is translucent, reminds me of a lacquer, except 
>>>> there is no
>> base.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a hard time imagining that such a record would survive long 
>>>> under a steel needle.
>>>> 
>>>> Joe Salerno
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