[78-L] Escott, was Arnold Covey

[Cary Ginell]

That's why it's not good to generalize when talking about rock 'n' roll. I just got a record by the Treniers of "Good Rockin' Tonight" and it's decidedly emphasizing the off-beat (2 & 4). Bill Haley's records were like that as well. This element could be found in western swing as well - the 2/4 beat that was made for dancing. Listen to any Chuck Berry record and you'll that as well.

Cary Ginell

On Mar 7, 2014, at 7:11 AM, Ron L'Herault <lherault at verizon.net> wrote:

> I wonder too if there are subtleties of rhythm that changed.  Jump bands
> still swing from what I hear of them and rock bands tend to my ears to be
> more 1-2-3-4 with little to no emphasis on any one particular beat.
> 
> Ron L
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> On 3/6/2014 9:01 PM, Cary Ginell wrote:
>> It has more to do with the role the guitarist plays, in my opinion, vs.
> tenor sax. Just having electric guitar in a group isn't the sole criteria. I
> don't think it's possible to define what is rock n roll and what isn't and
> have everyone agree. I listened to Rock This Joint by Preston and it still
> sounds like R&B/jump to me.
>> 
>> Cary
>> 
> Can't help but agree with this in principal. Blues/R&B/jump had the same
> rhythm and chord progressions going way back.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdZYayVhXVQ
> I think it was almost entirely how it was marketed and brought into
> prominence. We might easily agree that what we might recognize as rock
> probably was being played somewhere before there were mikes around to record
> it. And I think also it has to do with when it became acceptable to a larger
> white audience through various means, possible taken on as a symbol of
> independence to an emerging adolescent culture (read, James Dean). AND when
> it supplanted the old dance music (though I remember every guy wanted to
> "slow dance" with is favorite chick even in the 60's when I was a lad).
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