[78-L] Lyric 8108 mystery (really 8103)

[Glenn Longwell]

More information just surfaced.

Turns out Electric Phonograph Corporation in New York was the maker of the Phonolamp.  It had been around since 1916.  According to the American Record Labels book by Sutton/Nauck there was a Phonolamp label in 1921 made for Electric Phonograph Corporation.  So perhaps this label was a false start for them.  The date range of the company and the fact that they had a Phonolamp label in 1921 would make me believe this was an earlier attempt with Lyraphone when vertical was still a viable option.  

Getting there.  Still have yet to do any investigating into the other side of the disc and where that came from.

Glenn



www.majesticrecord.com


________________________________
 From: Glenn Longwell <glongwell at snet.net>
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Lyric 8108 mystery (really 8103)
 

OK, so here's why I asked about this record.  I just bought a record on ebay which arrived today.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291014454135?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649


If you looked at the ebay listing the seller said 8103 in the description but I looked at the picture and really thought it was 8108.  It was 8103!


So, I do have 8103 by chance.  The side without the label is actually Lyric 8103B.  The markings on the B side show both 8103A and 8103B which happens both this record and my Lyric 8103. Someone must have been confused!  Anyway, it's Medley of National Airs by Lyric Symphony Orchestra.  The markings between the two records are a little different so it could be a different take.  More comparison needs to be done.  BUT, it does show a link between Lyraphone and this unknown Peerless label which is not in Allan Sutton's label book.  Thinking through this it's unclear whether this is another Lyraphone client pressing or an attempt by Clarion.  Jacques Kohner started Clarion Record Company after Lyraphone (he was also involved in Majestic, then Par-O-Ket before going to Lyraphone) and this is possibly an attempt by him at Clarion since he retained rights to at least some masters.  The vertical attempt is interesting because of the date for Clarion,
1921.  If so, no wonder this Peerless is either real rare or never got off the ground.  I have yet to find anything on Electronic Phonograph Corporation in New York.  Dating this company will help determine when this record was pressed.  Have found Electric Phonograph Company in Kalamazoo though. 

I have yet to attempt figuring out the side with the label, which has nothing to do with the 8103 Lyric.  A first, quick check shows that it plays equally well (or bad actually) with a vertical as well as lateral setup.  Again, figuring out this side may give a clue as to when this record was pressed and whether it was Lyraphone or Clarion based.

Of course I'm still interested to know what's on 8108, but purely for discographical reasons, not because of this record I bought.

Glenn


www.majesticrecord.com




________________________________
From: Glenn Longwell <glongwell at snet.net>
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Lyric 8108 image and transfer needed


Me too!  I have 8107 and 8109.  But I'm really trying to compare 8108A to another unlabeled record to see if the same matrix was used.  Getting the actual label images also fills a gap in my discography for Lyraphone.

Glenn



www.majesticrecord.com


________________________________
From: cv5600 . <craigventresco at gmail.com>
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [78-L] Lyric 8108 image and transfer needed


I'm just curious to know what's on Lyric 8108-A...


On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Glenn Longwell <glongwell at snet.net> wrote:

> I'm interested to know if anyone has Lyric 8108 or, at a minimum, an image
> of the labels.  This is the vertical cut brand from Lyraphone.  As far as a
> transfer, if anyone owns the record, I'm interested in the A side.  As for
> who the artist(s) is I don't know.  It was probably announced either July
> or August 1917.  Thanks for any help.
>
> Glenn
>
>
>
>
> www.majesticrecord.com
> _______________________________________________
> 78-L mailing list
> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
>
_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
_______________________________________________
78-L mailing list
78-L at klickitat.78online.com
http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l