[78-L] eBay, Global Shipping Program pitfalls, Insurance
jim brannen
jbfinsup at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 25 13:18:02 PDT 2013
Thank you so much for your very informative post. I did go into my seller account shipping area and even though I had opted out when the program first started, it was showing as checked yes GSP. I unchecked and again opted out and it has disappeared from all my unsolds and temp plates again. I am saving your post to remind myself to check this peroidically. Thanks again - very helpful.
On Friday, October 25, 2013 7:41 AM, Benno Häupl <goldenbough at arcor.de> wrote:
I would like to clarify a few things about eBay and their infamous Global Shipping Program.
- First I want to explain how the world postal system works.
- Then I will show how you can opt out of GSP and I will go into detail about the flaws of eBay’s
Global Shipping Program.
- My personal solution to avoid GSP as an overseas buyer
- Lastly I will give hints on inexpensive (non-USPS) insurance when shipping from the USA.
- Bonus info: why eBay may not show your items AT ALL – although you paid for their services!
First of all, we must know that the global postal logistics system is divided into 3 parts:
- Letter mail (called First Class Int’l by USPS) up to 4 lbs (USA) or 2kg (4.4.lbs) from other countries. Maximum length of all 3 sides L*W*H 90cm = 36 inches. Remember, a wooden box can be shipped at the low ‘‘letter’’ rate!
- Parcel mail (anything over 4 lbs from USA or 2.kg from other countries)
- Courier Service EMS (called Express Mail International by USPS)
This is regulated by the Universal Postal Union in Bern, Switzerland, to which all postal services
on earth adhere and where these things are decided in their annual Conference.
All other carriers are not postal administrations, but private courier services (UPS, TNT, DHL, FedEx…)
So, Pitney-Bowes, who run eBay’s Global Shipping Program (GSP) are a courier service.
For customs administrations courier services are business-to-business carriers (B2B), therefore
ALL their shipments will be checked for customs duties.
If you use USPS FCI (or even USPS Priority Mail when in excess of 4 lbs), and hand write the
address on the package, you make the parcel look like a gift from auntie to her nephew and the
thing will not be taxed, especially if you declare a low customs value (like $20). Do not mark as
‘’gift’’, because this makes the shipment suspicious. And low customs declaration is the best
security measure against theft.
Let me show you how you can opt out of GSP (a method well hidden by eBay):
My eBay>Account>Site Preferences>Shipping Preferences>Offer the Global Shipping Program
There is a new Opt Out button & a "Use the Global Shipping Program automatically when I list item" check box.
If you don't want to opt out entirely, uncheck the box if you want to decide on a listing by listing basis.
GSP pitfalls for buyers.
1) Shipping cost is double or triple, because GSP is a courier service
2) GSP shipping costs are published nowhere (except on eBay item page) and thus GSP help themselves
3) Buyer pays import duties and import sales taxes plus a brokerage fee
upfront - even in cases when no duties or VAT are legally due in the
destination country.
4) Duties and taxes once paid to GSP are non-refundable - even in cases when
they are not legally due or when the item is returned
5) Combined shipping is not possible. A buyer was to pay $450 shipping for
13 books!
6) The GSP shipments are not insured
7) Some envelopes and packages sent via GSP will be opened by Homeland
Security - with carpet cutters. Many damaged collectibles and antiques were
reported. No possibility to complain.
8) There is no customer service for GSP problems - neither for sellers nor for
buyers
9) “Returns from international buyers are not handled through the Global
Shipping Program at this time”. So, solve your probems yourselves!
10) In order to save on volume and weight in overseas containers, GSP may
repackage the shipments if "the package is too large for the commodity’’ or
when the package it too heavy, then it will be ’’repackaged into 2 or more
parcels’’. Parts of shipments were reported lost, others were missing protective
cushoning, resulting in damages (but there is nobody to complain with!)
11) As GSP collects duties, taxes and a brokerage fee ahead of time when they
are not even due yet, these will not be reimbursed in case of loss or damage to
the item.
12) Businesses buying via GSP will not get an invoice for duties, taxes and
brokerage fee that will be formally tax deductable. (Last time it took eBay
Germany three years to provide tax deductable invoices for eBay fees! Three years!)
13) Although GSP claims on the item pages that there will be no extra duties,
taxes or fees to be paid on arrival, many cases were reported by buyer who had
to pay extra on arrival. In fact, there is a clause in the User Agreement saying
that they are not liable if they undervalued the shipment.
14) Items advertised internationally with shipping via GSP are not allowed to be
mailed by any other service, says the User Agreement.
15) Although there is no Customer Service for GSP, and no system set up for a
loss claim, eBay states that the buyer will only be refunded the national shipping
costs. The overseas portion and all other duties/tax/brokerage fee stay with GSP!
16) Undeliverable items (e.g. during vacation) cannot be refunded at all and will
neither be returned to the seller. Post Offices in many countries, in contrast, will
keep overseas shipments for 6 weeks.
All this jeopardizes the seller's feedback and star ratings!
My solution to avoid GSP as an overseas buyer:
I am now using the services of a re-shipper in California.
I have a US street address in 90250 Hawthorne, CA and get many records by media mail.
My mail forwarder keeps the shipments in storage until I decide what I want him to do.
I can select:
- forward the parcel as received
- open parcel and keep only the “item in its marketing packaging” (i.e. the protective cardboard or so),
which I always choose for the records. Discard all paperwork (invoices)
Then I have the re-shipper consolidate 10 or more such items into one larger parcel.
Most important of all: I can fill out my own customs declaration online!
In the first month I already saved more than $900 on shipping costs and customs duties that
the Global Shipping Program would have taken. That was for 14 items only!
If interested, I use shipito.com, because they are the least expensive- but there are many more.
They ship packages under 4 lbs even cheaper than by USPS First Class!
Make a google search for ‘’mail forwarding’’ to find similar services.
Now on to insurance.
Although USPS FCI cannot be insured, you can use a third-party insurer.
Check out U-Pic and Shipsurance. They will insure for about a $1.oo premium for
every $100 of value – REGARDLESS OF VALUE DECLARED on the customs form!
Better yet – “self insure”!
No need to feed insurance companies.
If you add an extra dollar to your buyer’s invoice for the shipping costs, put this dollar
aside in a cookie jar and pay out any claims from there. If an insurance company can
make a profit with a $1.oo premium on $100 value, you can, too. At the end of the year
take the money left over and invite your loved one to a fine dinner.
That’s all.
Except that I still have a goodie for y’all. This is an official eBay announcement about the new
User Agreement that we all had to accept:
“To further create a marketplace where buyers find what they want and drive positive
user experience, we updated the provision regarding listing conditions to recognize that the
appearance and placement of listings in search and browse results will depend on a variety
of factors. So, in some situations A LISTING MAY NOT APPEAR IN SOME SEARCH
AND BROWSE RESULTS.”
(Emphasis by me)
Benno
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