[78-L] Caruso with wrong label

Dave Burnham burnhamd at rogers.com
Wed Sep 18 08:18:23 PDT 2013


I hope you're not going to blow my theory out of the water and tell me that the copy five feet away from you is an American pressing!

db

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On 2013-09-18, at 10:38 AM, "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:

> I'm glad you brought this up because the copy I recently got is only
> five feet from me, and I see it is the second recording.  I've got
> another one somewhere downstairs which I hope is the earlier recording!
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Caruso with wrong label
> From: DAVID BURNHAM <burnhamd at rogers.com>
> Date: Wed, September 18, 2013 10:24 am
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> 
> And although it didn't involve an acoustic/electrical crossover, both
> versions of Ernest Lough's "Hear My Prayer" have identical HMV labels,
> (in fact I wasn't even aware that there were two versions until I ran
> into Ernest Lough in the Temple Church in 1977).  The two versions are
> easy to distinguish, (once you know about them), because the first
> release was take III on both sides and the later release was take VI on
> side one and take VIII on side two.  I assume the take sequence was just
> continued when they re-recorded it so that both sides would have begun
> with take IV.  The North American Victor release was only the first take
> III version, (I guess the record wasn't as popular here as it was in
> England).
> 
> db
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Iñigo Cubillo <ice261263 at gmail.com>
>> To: 78-l <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:12:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Caruso with wrong label
>> 
>> 
>> Only a reminder...
>> A bit logic + a bit observation of sister company HMV proceeds... make
>> one suppose that Victrola reissues of old low numbered batwings with
>> new Ortho labels are surely not so rare.
>> Victrolas that were popular enough (like Carusos, Heifertzs or
>> Kreislers, Galli-Curcis, Rachmaninoffs...) when no electrical
>> re-recording was made, reissues of old acoustics were made with Ortho
>> labels. Even sometimes the acoustic repressings coexisted with the new
>> electricals (high takes of the same matrix no.). At least in HMV it
>> happened with some records. I own two 1928 pressings of Amelita's "Una
>> voce"; one is the acoustical DB-261 and the other is the electrical
>> DB-1355 , and both are 1928 pressings with the proper (same) HMV label
>> styles. It could well have happened with Victrolas.. Didn't it?
> 
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