[78-L] Borrowed tunes

[Dave Burnham]

The actual quote is, (translated and paraphrased), "any idiot can see that and every idiot has". That certainly put the brakes on me ever mentioning the comparison again;  but I still think it was pretty clever of me to notice it when I was 7. 

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On 2013-07-10, at 6:30 AM, Don Cox <doncox at enterprise.net> wrote:

> On 09/07/2013, Dave Burnham wrote:
> 
>> The first line of Mahler's third also shows more than a passing
>> resemblance to the big tune of the fourth movement of Brahms' first.
>> 
>> The "frere Jacques" quote can't be accidental, but one has to wonder
>> once again why the connection. Was the titan's first name Jack?
>> 
> "Titan" is a long novel by Jean-Paul (Richter) which I found unreadable
> but which seems to have appealed to Mahler's youthful romanticism.
> 
> It is written in a heavily ironic and jokey style which must have
> influenced Mahler's compositional style.
> 
>> Nothing could be more tenuous than the four notes that lead to the
>> belief that Handel wrote "Joy to the World".
>> 
> As to "the big tune of the fourth movement of Brahms' first" - somebody
> remarked that it sounded very like the big tune in Beethoven's Ninth, to
> which Brahms replied "Any fool can hear that".
> 
> Regards
> -- 
> Don Cox
> doncox at enterprise.net
> 
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