[78-L] Lenny

[David Lennick]

Hey, the first line of the Duke Ellington classic FLAMINGO (composed by Ted 
Grouya) can be heard, note for note, in the first movement of Mahler's Third 
Symphony.

Doesn't the first line of "Rudolph" also turn up in Mahler, in a minor key? For 
that matter, did Mahler know he was writing variations on "Frere Jacques" in 
his first symphony?

dl

On 7/9/2013 5:01 PM, DAVID BURNHAM wrote:
> Changing note values a bit, the first line of "Rudolf the Red-Nosed Reindeer" is identical to the first line of the hymn "Rock of Ages".  Is that plagerism?
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>> Dozens and dozens more - too lazy to look up what they were adapted from,
>> but here are titles:
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>> MY REVERIE - Debussy
>> THE LAMP IS LOW - Ravel
>> MY FANTASY (1940)/TWILIGHT (1950)/STRANGER IN PARADISE (1953)- all adapted
>>from the same Borodin melody
>> BAUBLES, BANGLES&  BEADS - Borodin
>> AND THIS IS MY BELOVED - Borodin
>> STORY OF A STARRY NIGHT - Tchaikovsky
>> FULL MOON AND EMPTY ARMS - Rachmaninoff
>> TILL THE END OF TIME - Chopin
>> IF YOU ARE BUT A DREAM - Rubenstein
>> STRANDE MUSIC = Grieg
>> HOT DIGGETY - Chabrier
>> I'M ALWAYS CHASING RAINBOWS - Chopin
>>
>> And on and on.....
>>
>> Dave Weiner
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>> On 7/9/13 4:15 PM, "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>  wrote:
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>>> Also HERE COMES THE NIGHT..like The Things I Love, adapted from
>>> Tchaikovsky's
>>> "Melodie". The ASCAP ban was partly responsible for the adaptations from
>>> the
>>> classics, but they'd existed well before that.
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>>> dl
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>>> On 7/9/2013 4:11 PM, Ray Kilcoyne wrote:
>>>> Here's a short list I compiled years ago.  I know nothing about
>>>> classical music.  Corrections appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> ON THE ISLE OF MAY - Connee Boswell - from Tchaikovsky's String Quartet
>>>> in D Major Andante Cantabile Movement
>>>> MOON LOVE - Glenn Miller and Ray Eberle - Tchaikovsky's Fifth Symphony,
>>>> 2nd Movement
>>>> OUR LOVE - Jimmy Dorsey&   Bob Eberly - from Tchaikovsky's Romeo&
>>>> Juliette
>>>> THE THINGS I LOVE - Jimmy Dorsey&   Bob Eberly or Jan Savitt or Gene
>>>> Krupa - from Tchaikovsky's Melody Opus 42 #3
>>>> TONIGHT WE LOVE - Freddy Martin&   Clyde Rogers - from Tchaikovsky's
>>>> Piano Concerto in B Flat
>>>> RayK
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>>>> From: Dan Van Landingham
>>>> Your discussion on borrowed-stolen music themes reminds me of a 1941
>>>> Bluebird Jan Savitt 78 I have on a 33 called "The Things I Love" with a
>>>> vocal by Allan DeWitt.I first heard it in the late '70s and didn't give
>>>> it
>>>> much thought until I heard the melody in a string quartet piece years
>>>> later.I believe it was by Tschaikovsky.I've heard several Tschaikovsky
>>>> themes show up in so called "pop music" recordings of the '40s.I have
>>>> bad
>>>> version of Tschaikovsky's "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fair" by Larry
>>>> Clinton
>>>> done under the title of "Bounce of the Candy Fairy".I can't remember the
>>>> title of the other side,but it was a good tune and if it weren't for
>>>> that,I
>>>> would have broken the record just out of respect for Tschaik-
>>>> kovsky.Les Brown's "Everybody's Making Money But Tschaikowsky" was
>>>> another
>>>> matter:I saw that one by Spike Jones and his City Slickers in a junk
>>>> store
>>>> but never bought it.I can't remember if it was on Victor or
>>>> Bluebird.There
>>>> was a nice,dancable version of his "Pathetique" symphony I had on
>>>> OKeh,but I
>>>> don't remember if it was Les Brown or from other band like Frankie
>>>> Masters.It was a nice record.I once tried to write a set of lyrics to
>>>> it:they went something like,"Forever,I will give my love to
>>>> you...."That was
>>>> some 30+ years ago for a woman I was madly in lust over.She was HOT.
>>>>
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