[78-L] Chinese Shipping^

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Thu Jun 20 16:47:16 PDT 2013

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, PayPal reversed the payment the Chinese buyer made to me, without any evidence other than his word. He claimed two of the three Robeson discs were broken, but failed to take everything in to his post office to verify damage. Instead, he sent it all back to me, wrapped in bubble wrap and shoved in an envelope, so that when it arrived, the third disc had joined the other two in pieces. I called PayPal; they told me to file a criminal report with IC3.gov and send them a copy of the claim. My request to USPS is still under appeal. After submitting all my evidence to them, they were supposed to call me today, but you know how that turns out. They didn't. It seems like I'm the one that has to turn in all the evidence while the Chinese guy does nothing right, has proven nothing, and for all I know, he's already gotten my insurance money as well as his refund (although the post office normally confiscates the damaged materials so he can't do it twice). After seeing the way the Chinese postal service works, I have serious doubts they do anything by the book.

So as of now, I am out my money and have three busted records and a wad of Chinese bubble wrap in my garage

Cary Ginell

On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:28 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Just in case anyone missed this (it was posted here but I didn't see it until 
> it became a Letterman item last night), I have now indicated that I will not 
> ship to China under any circumstances. Between the mangling and the delays..
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-d2_GorYeM
> I sold the same item as Cary, and it's not lost, but the tracking number keeps 
> indicating that it will be delivered in 6 to 30 days. The buyer is justifiably 
> upset and wants either his records or his money. I presume (I hope?) that eBay 
> can't reverse a sale when it's indicated as still en route?
> dl
> On 6/16/2013 11:21 AM, Cary Ginell wrote:
>> All this advice is well and good, but it remains that it's the U.S. Postal Service that is ultimately at fault for not honoring the insurance that I paid for, just because the buyer decided to ship what was left of the 78s back to me and claim the PayPal instant refund. As a result, I'm out hundreds of dollars and the best USPS can say to me is, "Sorry, pal."
>> Cary Ginell
>> On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:38 AM, Julian Vein<julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>  wrote:
>>> On 16/06/13 12:19, Benno H�upl wrote:
>>>> .
>>>> Matthew Balcerak wrote,
>>>> ''the drivers often sit or stand on boxes.  They certainly always
>>>> get used as makeshift chairs during their lunch break.  Boxes are tossed
>>>> around like fish at a fish market, but often with no one to catch them. ''
>>>> This is why, according to international standards agreed among all
>>>> postal services on earth ("Universal Postal Union") a package must be
>>>> able withstand a drop from 6 feet high (1,80 m) on one of its corners.
>>>> Don't know off hand the precise ''pound per sq.inch'' or ''kg per cm''
>>>> required.
>>>> Benno
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>> "Chinese shipping" is another word for "junk"! Remember John R.T.
>>> Davies's Bateau Chinois label?
>>>       Julian Vein
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