[78-L] CUBA songs from tin pan alley query

Ryan Wolfe nextset4 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 10 21:02:51 PDT 2013


That's right.

So you can take that mess on down to C-U-B-A or Tanzania or wherever you can get away with it.


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 From: Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
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There's no point trying to find post-1922 songs whose copyrights were not renewed. That's needle-in-a-haystack craziness unless you happen to stumble upon one. There is no "list" of such things.

A few other item that are P.D. but probably won't help you: 


The Cubanola Glide (Von Tilzer, 1910)
Gottschalk's opera "Encenas Campestres" ("Cuban Country Scenes") - 1860 & " La Gallina" ("Danse Cubaine") - 1869

There's a suite that John Philip Sousa wrote in 1925 called "Cubaland" that I'd be interested in hearing. Not sure if it's still in copyright or not. Most Sousa stuff is P.D. worldwide if it was published prior to 1923.

Cary Ginell


On Jun 10, 2013, at 7:21 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> Unless it was composed before 1923, there ain't no such animal. I'm surprised 
> that the Berlin song is still in copyright in the US, although it's still 
> copyrighted in Canada and Europe (death+50 or death+70).
> 
> dl
> 
> On 6/10/2013 10:14 PM, Ray Kilcoyne wrote:
>> I don't know about copyright status but here are a few ideas...
>> CUBAN PETE - Desi Arnaz&  Amanda Lane
>> A CABANA IN HAVANA - Glenn Miller&  Marion Hutton
>> HAVANA - Billy Murray&  Ada Jones
>> WHEN YUBA PLAYED THE RHUMBA ON THE TUBA - Rudy Vallee or Ben Selvin
>> THERE'S A GIRL IN HAVANA - Lyric Quartet
>> HAVANA FOR A NIGHT - Tony Martin
>> RayK
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Thomas Stern
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:48 PM
>> To: 78-L Mail List
>> Subject: [78-L] CUBA songs from tin pan alley query
>> 
>> I'm forwarding this query, posted to MUDCAT - I'm sure
>> folks on this list will know dozens.....
>> Best wishes, Thomas.
>> 
>> 
>> Subject: Funny Tin Pan Alley songs about Cuba?
>> From: MorwenEdhelwen1 - PM
>> Date: 09 Jun 13 - 10:17 PM
>> 
>> I'm getting back to revising something I started last year, which is a young
>> adult science fiction novel that is a sort of
>> examination of the cult of personality around Che Guevara, which is why it's
>> set in Cuba. The protagonist is a literal clone of
>> Che. In the first few pages, someone sings a song that plays in a tourist ad
>> and is supposed to symbolise American attitudes about
>> the country that the government is playing to. The lyrics are quoted.
>> 
>> Right now I'm using Irving Berlin's "I'll See You In C-U-B-A," which , but
>> I've found that the copyright was renewed, so I'm
>> looking for any similar pieces from around that period on the subject of
>> Cuba, particularly funny ones, or which mention Cuba in
>> detail. Does anyone know of other similarly humourous Tin Pan Alley songs
>> about Cuba that are in public domain (ie the rights
>> haven't been renewed) in the same vein as the Irving Berlin piece?
>> 
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