[78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?

[Jeff Sultanof]

The proof that Miller was a good trombonist is the fact that he was on so
many records with top musicians, as well as part of radio orchestras.
Competition was fierce for those positions, as fierce as such jobs were as
late as the 1960s. He was doing very well between his playing and arranging.

Even Bill Finegan once stated that he was better than a lot of people
realized at the time. Look at it this way: when he had his own orchestra,
he continued to play. If he didn't think he himself was good enough, he
would have hired another guy, such was the way he thought.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com> wrote:

> That is a good question,  David...Ballew's name was on plenty of dates
> around this time so why not this one as well?
>
> I'll take friendly issue with your leaving Miller off the 100 Hot T-Bone
> list...I can think of several sides where he does very well...of course the
> MCBB Victors but also the Nichols Brunswick as by "The Captivators" of
> Building a Nest For Mary...nice little hott-ish solo and it must be his
> arrangement as well.
>
> None of this is to dis Joe Yukl,  who should also be on the Top 100!
>
>
> Taylor
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <david.diehl at hensteeth.com>
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> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 11:13 AM
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>
> >I always approached that 1935 session from the opposite tack: Why on earth
> >put Miller's name on the label when it was a Smith Ballew date? I guess
> >Miller may still have been doing some arranging for Ballew even though he
> >was with Ray Noble and the session was a little quid pro quo. Unlike B.G.
> >or the Dorseys who were known as virtuosi, Miller would have a tough time
> >beating out Joe Yukl in the top 100 hot trombone list. Berigan was
> featured
> >on the CBS Saturday Night Swing Club long before he was ready to actually
> >hit the road with a band of his own.
> > David
> > Visit the Blue Pages: the Encyclopedic Guide to 78 RPM Party Records
> > http://www.hensteeth.com
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rodger Holtin [mailto:rjh334578 at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2013 07:52 PM
> > To: '78-L Mail List'
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Glenn Miller - why so late on the label?
> >
> > Evidently I was not clear enough on the question.Why did it take him
> until
> > 1935 to get credited such as "Glenn Miller and His ..." ...orchestra,
> > boys, men etc?RodgerFor Best Results use Victor Needles..--- On Sun,
> > 6/2/13, David Lennick  wrote:From: David Lennick Subject: Re: [78-L]
> Glenn
> > Miller - why so late on the label?To: "78-L Mail List"
> > <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>Date: Sunday, June 2, 2013, 7:44 PMHe's on
> > the label of the Dorsey Brothers ANNIE'S COUSIN FANNY as composer, and I
> > think that's 1933.dlOn 6/2/2013 8:41 PM, Ron L'Herault wrote:> He was an
> > active sideman, e.g. with the Mound City Blue Blowers on "Hello> Lola"
> and
> > if memory serves, was in sections which included T.>> Ron
> > L>> -----Original Message-----> From:
> 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com>
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Rodger Holtin>
> > Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:00 PM> To: 78-List> Subject: [78-L] Glenn
> > Miller - why so late on the label?>>>> Glenn> Miller was older and had
> > been
> >  around as long or longer than Benny Goodman,> Jack Teagarden or even
> > Bunny Berigan, but all of them got their names on the> label of some
> > studio sides they made long before Miller; BG in the 1920s,> Jack in>
> 1930
> > and even relative latecomer Berigan in 1933. As a contractor known to>
> all
> > the producers, Miller surely had the contacts, and he had his sights set>
> > on leadership since he was in college, so why did it take him until 1935
> > to> get his name on the label? Coincidences, or some plan of delayed>
> > gratification, or waiting until he felt the time was right?? Did he tell>
> > George T Simon? Anybody know?>>>>> Rodger>>>> For Best Results use Victor
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