[78-L] very high price for a Berliner

[Kristjan Saag]

A few years ago a shellac copy of no. 241 was sold for 1,000 dollars on 
e-bay (also a cornet duet), and there was a discussion on
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=881
about the price.
Your explanation then, Stephan, for the high price (although lower than 
for a hard rubber copy) was that a shellac pressing from an original 
zinc master or an old stamper was rare:
"At the same time it is an oddity - I have never seen or heard of a 
shellac compound pressing of an 1894 Berliner recording. This explains 
the far above average price towards contemporary (c. 1897) pressings."
This changes the picture a bit: maybe the buyer of no 242wasn't deceived 
after all?
Is there new information available about those discssince youwrote your 
comment in 2009(under your Starkton alias)? Perhaps the 241 was a hard 
rubber copy?
Kristjan


On 2013-06-03 14:16, Stephan Puille wrote:
> Obviously, some buyers only saw the incised recording year of Berliner 242 Z and 249 Z, 1894, ignoring the fact that both are "modern" shellac compound pressings. These cornet duet recordings are still listed in my April 1897 Berliner record catalogue. Due to its long catalogue life they aren't much rarer than 1896 or 1897 recordings.
>
> Stephan
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:17:10 +0200
>> From: ekluwer at gmail.com
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] very high price for a Berliner
>>
>> Yes,
>>
>> First regular berliner  production was from fall 1894 (aside from the toy 5
>> inch Berliners made from 1899-1892)... very limited market in 1894 with
>> few made and even less left over.... Not unusual for these to go high up in
>> auctions...
>>
>> Erwin
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:08 PM, neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com <
>> neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw on you-know-where-bay an 1894 Berliner.
>>>
>>> 21 bids later, it solde for $1880.
>>>
>>> I am wondering why this Berliner sold for so much more than the average
>>> Berliner.
>>>
>>> Is it becasue it is a little earlier than others? 1894 is the earliest
>>> date I have ever seen for a 7".
>>> --
>>> Joe Salerno
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 78-L mailing list
>>> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
>>> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> 78-L mailing list
>> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
>> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
>   		 	   		
> _______________________________________________
> 78-L mailing list
> 78-L at klickitat.78online.com
> http://klickitat.78online.com/mailman/listinfo/78-l
>