[78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
Cary Ginell
soundthink at live.com
Fri Apr 26 09:45:47 PDT 2013
To me, they are just a shade more reputable than Proper, whose products I refuse to buy under any circumstances.
Cary ginell
> Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2013 09:44:23 -0700
> From: nextset4 at yahoo.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
>
> Silly me, I hadn't even spotted that! I was looking on the back or in the CD booklets. Indeed, sometimes these things are subjected to post processing that will muck up the original transfer engineer intent.
>
> I don't mind some NR, if it's used tastefully. I've had bad luck that way with most JSP product, so I don't bother with it anymore.
>
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> From: Martin Fisher <Martin.Fisher at mtsu.edu>
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>
> Since I was going from memory I had to rethink myself. Here's the Amazon page for the set. The banner is on the front of the box.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Gennett-Old-Time-Music-Classic/dp/B003BL0BF4
>
> Confession and observation time.... I'm so used to listening to 78s played flat with no processing that I find myself unbelievably ANNOYED if I can detect ANY form of NR. In my mind, the purpose of any form of clean up is to remove unwanted artifact....NOT INTRODUCE IT! IMHO, a stable noise floor is much preferable to one that seems to be rolling on a ripply lake.
>
> Also, when listening by headphone, I find that my ears can better differentiate noise from program content by hearing both sides of a mono groove in stereo. The brain sorts out what is not common to both channels and the performance comes through all the more solid with much more presence.
>
> Martin
>
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> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Wolfe
> Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:00 PM
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> The Gennett 'Classic Country Recordings' box?
>
> I don't see his credit on there anywhere, but yes, box sounds ousy. As does the 'Paramount Masters' set, which was one I was especially interested in.
>
> But JSP has a somewhat convoluted history anyway. John R.T. Davies used to do transfers for them.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Martin Fisher <bethwillfish2 at att.net>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 6:42 PM
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>
> I've got the Gennett and Paramount country box sets from JSP. I believe the
> Gennett box boasts TRANSFERS from Chris King. I hope the transfers were all
> he did cause the set has some pretty excessive use of noise reduction on
> several cuts and I wouldn't want to be credited with it if I were him.
>
> The Paramount box has several cuts that sound as if they were recorded at
> the end of a four foot sewer pipe. The rose in all this is that the sets
> were very affordable.
>
> Martin
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> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of Steve Ramm
> Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:31 PM
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> Some of the records came from Chris King. Others from Kinney Rorrer (who
> wrote the 4 page liner notes for the CD), David Freeman and John Coffee I
> didn't notice a lot of flutter but I'll check out my CD again. Steve
> > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:22:03 -0700
> > From: nextset4 at yahoo.com
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
> >
> > Christopher King does do really good work. The best of what I've heard of
> his stuff is in a league with Richard Nevins at Yazoo.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com>
> > To: "78-l at klickitat.78online.com" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
> >
> >
> > Response from Tompkins Square:
> > Hi Cary, thanks. There is no better copy of that record according to
> producer
> > Chris King. And if there was, you can be sure Chris would have gotten his
> hands
> > on it.
> >
> > TSQ
> > > From: soundthink at live.com
> > > Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 14:18:01 -0700
> > > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
> > >
> > > Sounds at times like both. I've had some speed fluctuation problems with
> my turntable, but I checked it against the other tracks, and this is the
> only one that has a problem. Can't believe Tompkins' quality control would
> miss this. They're usually a pretty good label.
> > >
> > > CG
> > > On Apr 23, 2013, at 1:54 PM, Doug Pomeroy <audiofixer at verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The folks at Tompkins Square may not know there is now a digital
> processor which
> > > > can remove flutter and wow from most music recordings, especially
> those which are
> > > > rich in harmonics. It's called Capstan, made by a German company
> called Celemony.
> > > > It isn't inexpensive, of course.
> > > >
> > > > Doug Pomeroy
> > > > Audio Restoration and Mastering Services
> > > > 193 Baltic St
> > > > Brooklyn, NY 11201-6173
> > > > (718) 855-2650
> > > > audiofixer at verizon.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>> From: Martin Fisher <Martin.Fisher at mtsu.edu>
> > > >>>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:58 AM
> > > >>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Charlie Poole reissue
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Hey Cary,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Is it a once around wow caused by off center transfers or more like
> a flutter??
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Martin
> > > >
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