[78-L] Treemonisha

Steve Ramm steveramm78l at hotmail.com
Thu Apr 4 15:05:31 PDT 2013


Houston Opera was the first full length opera on record in 1982. I still have on vinyl somewhere. All you need on Treemonishaseems to be here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treemonisha Steve
 > From: sternth at attglobal.net
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 16:02:27 -0400
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Treemonisha
> 
> 
> Hi David,
>   Certainly possible that I'm conflating the two, but I see a listing for a 1972 LP of
> a concert at the New York Public Library, and apparently issued by NYPL with the help
> of Nonesuch:
> 
> An Evening with Scott Joplin    NEW YORK PUBLIC LIBRARY SJ
> William Bolcom
>  Maple leaf rag (3:09) --
>  Solace : a Mexican serenade (6:14) --
>  The ragtime dance (4:25) --
> Mary Lou Williams
>  Elite syncopations (3:01) --
>  Pleasant moments (3:17) --
>  Pine apple rag (4:16) --
> Joshua Rifkin
>  Bethena : a concert waltz (5:10) --
>  Magnetic rag (5:19) --
> Joshua Rifkin, piano ; Barbara Christopher, soprano, Clamma Dale, mezzo-soprano, Michael Gordon, baritone, Dennis Moorman, piano,
> and chorus, conducted by John Motley.
>  Excerpts from Treemonisha.
>  The corn-huskers/We're goin' around (3:24) ;
>  Good advice (4:56) ;
>  A real slow drag (5:50) ;
>  We're goin' around : (encore) (3:29).
> 
> My (as usual vague) recollection is that there was a lot of hoopla and anticipation of
> the record.
> 
> Anyone know if the TREEMONISHA excerpts in the NYPL disk are simply old known selections, or from the
> rediscovered piano score?
> 
> I'd also like to see a scan of the jacket - might jog the memory.....
> 
> Best wishes, Thomas.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of David Lennick
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:20 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Treemonisha
> 
> 
> You aren't thinking of James P. Johnson's YAMEKRAW, are you?
> 
> dl
> 
> On 4/4/2013 2:26 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
> >   I thought there was an LP on a small label of a *tentative* recreation of TREEMONISHA, perhaps in the 1960's, but can't recall
> > any details at the moment.  Don't see anything on Folkways.  Might have been one of the small
> > "ragtime" or jazz labels.  This would have been a "first" recording.  Anyone know the details?  Thanks.
> > Best wishes, Thomas.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> > [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of Sammy Jones
> > Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 2:38 AM
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Treemonisha
> >
> >
> > I read much of Rick Benjamin's liner notes (the 100-page booklet) last night
> > on the New World website.  He writes that he's spent years studying period
> > arranging and instrumentation techniques to prepare the restoration.  The
> > versions from the '70s...well, sound like it!
> >
> > I ordered the CD tonight.  Very excited to hear it.
> >
> > I know Joplin made several piano rolls...any 78s or cylinders?
> >
> > Sammy
> >
> >> Yes, and it blows that one out of the water, historic-wise.  It comes with
> >> an ENORMOUS 100-page booklet in a hard cover, detailing everything you
> >> could possibly want to know about the work.  The performances on the old
> >> recording are more vibrant and heartfelt, but the new one is more accurate
> >> in performance style. I have both recordings.
> >> http://www.amazon.com/Scott-Joplin-Paragon-Ragtime-Orchestra/dp/B005WUOWR0/
> >> ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364997507&sr=8-1&keywords=treemonisha
> >>
> >> Dave Weiner
> >>
> >> On 4/3/13 8:25 AM, "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Different from the Deutsche Grammophon recording made in the 70s?
> >>>
> >>> dl
> >>>
> >>> On 4/3/2013 1:05 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> >>>> Has anyone heard the Rick Benjamin reconstruction of Joplin's
> >>>> Treemonisha?
> >>>> The recording is available from New World.  I read a good bit of the
> >>>> liner
> >>>> notes tonight.  Interestingly for collectors of 78-era music, the score
> >>>> has
> >>>> been orchestrated using Eleven and Pno., the standard American theater
> >>>> instrumentation of the early 20th century.
> >>>>
> >>>> I didn't know the thing had been finished!
> >>>>
> >>>> Sammy Jones
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
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