[78-L] Packaging was Early 2LP Album 1950

Thomas Stern sternth at attglobal.net
Sun Feb 24 14:37:45 PST 2013

speaking of dowels - early ANGEL single LP's had a dowel attached to the inner sleeve by a wrap with the information about the
album (composer/work/title/performer/catalog number) which later appeared on the spine.  Never understood why they
did that - seems it would be considerably more expensive....??

Best wishes, Thomas.

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Matter of fact I just traded my Bessie Smith album with the center post and the 
paper separators, although the records remained in excellent condition over the 
20+ years I had the set (and the 30+ for the previous original owner). Dumb idea.


On 2/24/2013 11:44 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
> The one thing that is similar is that these bound albums took up more
> space on the shelves than single albums and either stuck out on narrow
> shelves, or the singles got lost on deeper shelves.  Gatefold covers
> were the ultimate answer, and even three disc sets could be
> accommodated. Some used leatherette bindings for the gatefolds and those
> were big mistakes. For larger sets, boxes are the answer.  The problem
> with boxes are that the can get crushed -- this was the real problem
> with the large bound boxes and the dowel boxes.
> Around the time of the dowel, Columbia had an experimental box which
> used a patented invention of my old pal Steinweiss.  They discuss it in
> his $500 book and I have one example of it for 78s.  I don't think they
> were stupid enough to use it for LPs.  It was a box the size of the
> records and the records were naked, not in sleeves.  Like a professional
> reel of tape they were HUNG from the center hole, but instead of a
> cardboard insert with a hefty core for the hole like in tape boxes,
> Steinweiss used a record-sized PAPER with a little orange plastic
> spindle on a one inch disc.  STUPID.  I have the two-disc Kosty Mark
> Twain Suite with this box, and the box is in mint condition (if it were
> crushed it wouldn't work) and the records are WARPED from hanging loose!
> When that paper tears it is just two discs in the box.  Steinweiss was
> no genius.
> Mike Biel  mbuiel at mbiek.com
> Han Enderman wrote:
>>>> Ebay 180850806855 shows a 1950 2LP album (Bruckner on Westminster),
>>>> which still has the layout of a 78rpm album. Can't remember if I
>>>> have seen such before. han enderman
> From: David Lennick
>>> Vox and Vanguard also used that format into the early 50s.
>>> Columbia and Decca went to box sets with the pages attached
>>> to a dowel post by some weird kind of paper that dried out,
>>> shrank, cracked, broke, disintegrated or whatever. dl
> Thomas Stern wrote:
>>> IIRC, An Evening with Will Shakespeare issued by THEATRE
>>> MASTERWORKS was in that format as originally released,
>>> later as a box set and reissued by Continental.
> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> Same goes for London operas and lengthy symphonies, albums well
>> into the mid 50s. Vanguard was using this format as late as 1953..
>> just looked at "May Night", 3 lps in fold-over pockets, 78 type
>> album. The libretto was printed in 1953.
>> And Mercury and RCA both used DeLuxe padded albums for special
>> sets like complete ballets and the Glenn Miller Limited Editions. dl
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