[78-L] My Man From Caroline

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Fri Dec 21 13:56:44 PST 2012


Sussman did tell me just now that Donaldson did his fair share of traveling and did spend some time in the Carolinas.
Cary

> From: soundthink at live.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 13:20:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: [78-L] My Man From Caroline
> 
> 
> Sussman reported back quickly that he did not have any information on how the song was written or what "Caroline" referred to. Donaldson was a typical Brooklyn-born New York, Tin Pan Alley guy, so I doubt he had any first-hand knowledge (as George Gershwin had when researching "Porgy and Bess") of ways and dialects of the South. It's my belief he just tried copying existing styles and that "Caroline" has no more significance than any other passing reference to the general area of North and South Carolina.
> Cary Ginell
> 
> > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 22:18:45 +0100
> > From: saag at telia.com
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] My Man From Caroline
> > 
> > Thanks, Cary and Don for your efforts!
> > I, honestly, thought I had stumbled on some general knowledge, unknown 
> > to non USresidents.
> > Now I'm getting really curious.
> > Kristjan
> > 
> > On 2012-12-21 22:04, Cary Ginell wrote:
> > > I posed your question to Alvin Sussman, who heads up the publisher that represents the Donaldson estate. We'll see if they respond with anything concrete.
> > >
> > > Cary Ginell
> > >
> > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Kristjan Saag <saag at telia.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> A bit surprised: just one answer to my question - and that one only gave
> > >> a hint.
> > >> So I humbly ask (from a European perspective): is the question too
> > >> sillyand the answer too obvious - from a Northern American persepctive -
> > >> or doesn't anyone really know?!
> > >> Kristjan
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 2012-12-20 02:12, Kristjan Saag wrote:
> > >>> Does anyone have a clue about where Walt Donaldson's "My Man From
> > >>> Caroline" is from? Caroline County in Virginia? Or one of the Carolinas?
> > >>> The song ends with the words
> > >>>
> > >>> Nothing could be finer
> > >>> than to be in Carolina
> > >>> with my man from Caroline.
> > >>>
> > >>> And there's a minstrel song, "Dandy Joe" that goes:
> > >>>
> > >>> I've often heard it said of late
> > >>> Dat Souf Carolina was de state,
> > >>> Whar handsome Niggars bound to shine,
> > >>> Like "Dandy Jim from Caroline."
> > >>>
> > >>> So: is "Caroline" dialectal for Carolina?
> > >>> Kristjan
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