[78-L] Coltrane (was five least liked)

Wed Dec 19 12:18:30 PST 2012

I have Coltrane playing tenor on a Johnny Hodges 78 on Norgran from 1954. He did not take any solos on these, to my knowledge, but his name is on the labels as "Johnny Coltrane."
Norgran 124  Sweet as Bear Meat / Skokiaan
He is also speculated to appear on the following Hodges disc:
Norgran 145  Used to Be Duke - Part 1 & 2 (Coltrane not identified on the label)            Here's a picture of 124:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/78-RPM-Johnny-Hodges-SWEET-AS-BEAR-MEAT-Norgran-NM-/200623119228?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item2eb611db7c
Coltrane was also on Mercury 8173 & 8177 by Billy Valentine, issued in 1949, Gotham 279 by Gay Crosse (1952) and Republic 7008 & 7027, also by Crosse (1952)
He made other recordings dating back to 1946, but these were not originally issued on 78s.             

Cary Ginell

> From: mbiel at mbiel.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 12:09:31 -0700
> Subject: Re: [78-L] five least liked 78s (was - five favorites)
> 
> 1. Did John Coltrane make any 78s?  If so, they would be the top of my
> no redeeming value -- social or otherwise-- list.  
> 
> 2.  Putting Shirley Temple on the list because of a single 78 from what
> really the post-78 era is not quite fair because the record mogols of
> her star years had the GOOD SENSE to NOT put her on record then, instead
> assigning her songs to worthy performers.  I never saw the appeal of
> Shirley -- she was a LOUSY actress.  If only Rose Marie was as pretty as
> her voice, SHE should have been the child star.
> 
> 3.  I'm not a real Henry Burr fan -- except for his great rendition of
> Irving Berlin's anti-war song "Stay Down Here Where You Belong".  I
> don't hate his other stuff, but he's no Billy Murray.
> 
> 4.  Almost any Baroque music.  DULL, Dull, dull.  Sounds better at 156
> RPM.
> 
> 5.  Atonal Avant-guarde free-form jazz.  Can't name any 78s because I
> avoided it too well.  One sax squeak and I'm gone!!!
> 
> By the way, at the bottom of this I have cut Dennis Flannigan's likes to
> keep them from being misunderstood as a hate list.  That should have
> been done long ago.
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [78-L] five least liked 78s (was - five favorites)
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Date: Wed, December 19, 2012 1:33 pm
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> 
> I got no problems with the brakeman, but Grappelli just sets my teeth on
> edge. 
> Never had the slightest tolerance for him except for a late album he did
> with 
> Diz Disley, by which time his Hungarian restaurant gypsy swoops were
> under control.
> 
> Fight on!
> 
> dl
> 
> On 12/19/2012 1:13 PM, Cary Ginell wrote:
> >
> > OK, I'll take on both you AND David with one tonearm tied behind my back!
> > Cary Ginell (who has 98 Jimmie Rodgers 78s, at most recent count)
> >
> >> From: Philip_Carli at pittsford.monroe.edu
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:10:46 +0000
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] five least liked 78s (was - five favorites)
> >>
> >> Well, Jimmie Rodgers did more for the NO&NE Railroad than he'll ever do for me. PC
> >>
> >> "The problem with folk music is that it's written by the _people_..." Tom Lehrer
> >> ________________________________________
> >> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] on behalf of David Lennick [dlennick at sympatico.ca]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 12:53 PM
> >> To: 78-L Mail List
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] five least liked 78s (was - five favorites)
> >>
> >> Definite seconding to Whitfield, Lynn, adding Anne Shelton. And nobody's
> >> mentioned Jan Peerce's Bluebird of Happiness, Freddy Martin's Birdshit on your
> >> Windowsill (actually Freddy Martin's entire output is pretty high on my list,
> >> along with that of all other hotel orchestras with those "silver saxes"), and
> >> any Stepon Grapejelly that intrudes for more than 8 bars. He became listenable
> >> in the 70s, and that's well after the gawdawful duets with Yehudi
> >> thenkyewveddymotch.
> >>
> >> dl
> >>
> >> On 12/19/2012 12:43 PM, Matthew Duncan wrote:
> >>> Never hear again? ....here goes....
> >>>
> >>> 1. Any David Whitfield
> >>> 2. Any Bing Crosby
> >>> 3. Any Frank Sinatra
> >>> 4. Any Vera Lynn
> >>> 5. Billy Cotton - "Friends and Neighbours''
> >>>
> >>> I have valid reasons for the above but some may be horrified by my choices...oh well...
> >>>
> >>> Matt in the UK
> >>>
> >>> --- On Wed, 19/12/12, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] five least liked 78s (was - five favorites)
> >>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>> Date: Wednesday, 19 December, 2012, 17:20
> >>>
> >>> Any Ken Griffin
> >>> Any Liberace
> >>> Any Nelson Eddy/Jeannette MacDonald/either one solo
> >>> (I may have used up my 5 but I'm pressing on)
> >>> Any Pee Wee Hunt
> >>> And a special plateau in hell for Orrin Tucker's "Oh, Johnny"
> >>>
> >>> Was Shirley Temple's Lollipop ever on a 78? It would have to be on a "Voice of
> >>> the Stars" compilation.
> >>>
> >>> dl
> >>>
> >>> On 12/19/2012 12:09 PM, Malcolm Rockwell wrote:
> >>>> Never hear again? Much harder.
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) Near You - Francis Craig
> >>>> 2) A Tisket A Tasket - anyone
> >>>> 3) O Sole Mio - Enrico Caruso
> >>>> 4) Captain Of The Spaceship - Spike Jones
> >>>> 5) On The Good Ship Lollypop - Shirley Temple
> >>>>
> >>>> Mind you, I have reasons for all of these;
> >>>> I'm not just picking them out of the air.
> >>>> Malcolm
> >>>>
> >>>> *******
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/18/2012 10:03 PM, Dennis Flannigan wrote:
> >>>>> Has there ever been a list of five you'd never want to hear again?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> df
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