[78-L] 1920s Ukrainian Klezmer!
Michael Biel
mbiel at mbiel.com
Thu Oct 18 11:33:44 PDT 2012
Just listen to it! Now we need a Ukranian to translate the lyrics and
the title.
Mike Biel mbiel at mbielcom
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Subject: Re: [78-L] 1920s Ukrainian Klezmer!
From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, October 18, 2012 2:07 pm
To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
I have been trying to find proof for decades that Yes My Darling
Daughter was
an old tune before Jack Lawrence wrote it. Is this the case?
dl
On 10/18/2012 1:18 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> Because the Soviet Union was established by 1918, I don't think that
> these recordings from the 1920s are pre-Soviet. To me these are fairly
> standard folk and popular recordings aimed at the regular Ukrainian
> emigrants, largely CHRISTIAN. Since "Klezmer" is a term which was
> coined in the 1970s to define JEWISH music -- which was more often
> called "Freilech" in earlier years -- I don't think these records can
> be called Klezmer.
>
> Klezmer had originally referred to the musicians, but because freilech
> means joyous or happy, the revivalists of this Jewish music wanted a
> single term that would include sad and sentimental music. So the word
> describing the musicians now describes all of their music and Freilech
> is now a category of Klezmer. But Ukrainian folk music is Ukrainian folk
> music -- let them find their own term.
>
> that being said, there is a bit of cross-fertilization among the
> different ethnic groups and countries. Just as standard American pop
> songs can be heard in blues, jazz, "hillbilly", and vice-versa, the
> second side you included, "Oj, ne chody Hryclu" becomes the Yiddish song
> "Yuh, Mein Liebe Tochter" "Yes My Darling Daughter."
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbMB-YKxgTY&playnext=1&list=PL6B143C495E2C29FA&feature=results_video
> (I don't think you can consider this Barry Sisters recording Klezmer!
> It really is Yiddish Swing!)
>
>
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> -------- Original Message --------
>
> From: Clifford Bolling<78records at cdbpdx.com>
>> Just brought home a small collection of Ukrainian records. This stuff really knocks my hat in the creek! Pre-Soviet Klezmer from the 1920s.
>
> http://pdx78s.cdbpdx.com/Uklez/
>
>> I had a much different concept of Ukrainian music before this. Enjoy!
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