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modernize his band, and hired Budd. I'm sure Budd built up that book. I
also know that he briefly mentored Stan Kenton, who showed his work to
Budd. Budd was a believer in sharing one's knowledge; he was very giving
that way if you really showed an interest. I spent many hours with him and
they were glorious, with one story after another. One of my most precious
memories is sitting at a table with Budd and Frank Foster as they
reminisced about their days with Basie. I thought Frank was going to split
a gut laughing.

Perhaps Budd's most important mentoring was with Ben Webster. Johnson gave
him tenor sax lessons.

Jeff Sultanof

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Jeff Sultanof <jeffsultanof at gmail.com>wrote:

> Cary,
>
> I asked Budd specifically about Skylark as I love the arrangement. Johnson
> pointed to himself. That's all I can tell you. I can also tell you that in
> my conversations with Budd, he was like Benny Carter as he never took
> credit for something if he wasn't absolutely sure.
>
> Johnson was the type of arranger (again like Carter) who could write very
> generically. Both were believers in giving a leader something in the
> leader's style. However, I'm sure you know that Johnson was also musical
> director at least some of the time during his tenure in Eckstine's big
> band. Frank Foster told me that Budd was one of the great underrated
> musicians in jazz who did much more than he is known for.
>
> If you picked his brain, he was an encyclopedia of the times he was on the
> scene. He told me he was writing an autobiography, but he never even
> started it as far as I know. That's a real pity. He didn't want someone
> else to do it and make all the money.
>
> Jeff S.
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Cary Ginell <soundthink at live.com> wrote:
>
>> The information I have says Robert Crowder did the "Skylark" arrangement,
>> but Johnson makes a lot of sense as well.
>>
>> Thanks-
>>
>> Cary
>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
>>
>> > I agree with you on Carey.
>> >
>> > And yes, the arrangement is by Johnson. I asked him about this when I
>> was
>> > his student assistant when he taught one semester at Queens College. He
>> > told me he wrote all of the arrangements for Eckstine. I'll bet he wrote
>> > the arrangements of anything currently uncredited during that period for
>> > Hines.
>> >
>> > Jeff Sultanof
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Taylor Bowie <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> My money is on Carey (the one with the "e" in his name).  He was a very
>> >> able
>> >> member of the fantastic little band of Roy Eldridge and I seem to
>> recall
>> >> reading that he was able to double on most anything.
>> >>
>> >> Is it a Budd Johnson arrangement?  I don't have it but I'd sure like to
>> >> hear
>> >> it.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Taylor
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Cary Ginell" <soundthink at live.com>
>> >> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 11:55 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Earl Hines' "Skylark"
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> But seriously, folks, does anyone know? It was most likely one of the
>> >>> saxophonists at the session, which included  Leroy Harris, Scoops
>> Carey,
>> >>> William Randall, Budd Johnson, and Robert Crowder.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cary Ginell
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Flute?
>> >>>> That's the bird.
>> >>>> Kristjan
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> On 2012-08-25 19:49, Cary Ginell wrote:
>> >>>>> Does anyone know who plays the flute obbligato on Earl Hines' 1942
>> >>>>> Bluebird recording of "Skylark," featuring Billy Eckstine? It's not
>> >>>>> indicated in Rust.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Cary Ginell
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