[78-L] Bix tests

[David Lennick]

The numbers in the run-off area indicate stamper numbers..I have different ones 
as well. But I've never seen an album where the liner refers to compressing the 
grooves. ("Lurid"!? Florid, yes..)

dl

On 8/22/2012 11:14 AM, Scott wrote:
> Thanks for the input Joe. . . I do know the date this "Sweet Sue" was
> pressed since it carries in the run-on groove area "11/23/38" but just
> wanted to confirm that these were custom made tests and not tests pressed
> for a certain commercial release.
>
>
>
> Over at Albert's Bix site, Joe Giordano back in 2004 was asked about the Bix
> 78 album C-29 of which he had both versions:  "One with the truncated copy
> of "Sweet Sue" and one with the compressed copy. The initial issue from 1940
> has the truncated version. The second issue (c. 1945) has the compressed
> version. He remarked on two weird things - both versions have the same
> master number, namely, 24050 and that the liners in both issues are
> identical. They both refer to cutting out "the florid introduction."
>
> The numbers on the run-off grooves are different. His truncated version has
> 1-B-3. His compacted version has 1-2 7.
>
> It looks as if there are three versions of the album.
> 1. Truncated. Liners state removing the lurid intro.
> 2. Compressed. Liners state removing the lurid intro.
> 3. Compressed. Liners state compressing the grooves.
>
>
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> David Lennick wrote:
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>> B23751 should date from late 1938 (can't date it precisely yet) and
>
>> 24050 from March 1939. ...
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> Joe wrote:
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> If the Abrams files hold any weight, they place B 23751 circa 24 Nov 1938.
> There's a void from 23747 to 23755; 23746 is 22 November while
>
> 23756 is 26 November. All that presumes, of course, that the numbers were in
> fact used chronologically. Not always a valid presumption.
>
>
>
> 24050 is 30 or 31 January 1939, from the same source (B 24047-1 is 30
> January, 24051-2 is 31 January; 24050 is listed, but as the original
>
> 18 Sept 1928 recording date). BUT...dates of several preceding sessions are
> non-sequential; W[B]24033/42 are listed as 3 February 1939...which could be
> explained by their being recorded at World, and the 3 Feb 1939 date could
> well be ARC/Brunswick/Columbia/wotever's remastering date...as it turns out,
> I have a World test of what
>
> *became* W 24034-A...but that's another story.
>
>
>
> Scott Wenzel
>
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