[78-L] Bix tests

[David Lennick]

Well, that's weird..as I say, I have 4 copies, all mx 24050, and two are the 
edited version and two are the complete dub with the 1938 style runout.

dl

On 8/20/2012 2:48 PM, Scott wrote:
> Hi David
>
> I don't have at hand my copy of 24050 on hand so I don't recall if I've got
> the edited or complete "Sweet Sue" red label Columbia. Nonetheless, my test
> (with B23751) is the edited version.
>
> I've posted this query on Albert Haim's Bix Forum as well but with not much
> added discussion.
>
> Scott Wenzel
>
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> What has always puzzled me about Sweet Sue is that there are two very
> different
> versions of 24050, and I suspect that one of them is actually B23751 because
> it
> has the late 30s style of starting the runout during wider grooves at the
> end
> of the recording..and that it's the COMPLETE RECORDING, not the edit. I have
>
> two copies of each version. The "complete" version seems to be on later
> issues,
> with the sharp edges and the grey album pockets. Is your B23751 test the
> complete recording, all 4'27" of it? This was how I first encountered the
> record, and needless to say I was puzzled by the liner notes' reference to
> "dropping the florid introduction".
>
> dl
>
> On 8/15/2012 4:19 PM, Scott wrote:
>> Hi all
>>
>>
>>
>> A couple of weeks ago in Connecticut - not too far from Bridgeport - I
> found
>> about 40 mint one-sided test pressings of mostly Bix&   His Gang and
>> Trumbauer Orch sides. Many of them are 10" while some are the 11" variety
>> where you can see the title, artist, tune, etc, from the metal part.
>>
>> They are all issued takes but just wondered if anyone has ever come across
>> these particular tests. The label design is of the 1930s variety and I'm
>> guessing they were made around 1938 as the date etched in the run-on area
> of
>> "Sweet Sue", an edited version of 12" Columbia 50103-D, states 11/23/38.
>> However, the matrix of this particular "Sweet Sue" is B23751-1 What is
> weird
>> is that this matrix is not the one made for Columbia's 10" edited pressing
>> for album C-29. That matrix is W24050. The matrix on this 11" disc looks
> to
>> me like a Brunswick number. Was this then a custom pressing or was this to
>> be issued as a Brunswick release?
>>
>>
>>
>> I also have "Cryin' All Day" and "A Good Man..." that has the Columbia
>> reissue matrix of 17066 and 17067 in the wax and I believe that was
> pressed
>> in January of '41.
>>
>>
>>
>> best
>>
>> Scott Wenzel
>>
>
>