[78-L] Setting new standards of awfulness [fwd]

[David Lennick]

Just hit another one where the last note had more to go but the engineer lifted 
the cutting stylus, then added an unattached dead groove (maddening since the 
flip side has a complete runout). Rudolph Gruen playing Griffes on Roycroft. 
Disc also needs to be sped up 3.5%. Roycrofts were cut by Cameo..not very 
carefully!

dl

On 7/31/2012 12:55 PM, Royal Pemberton wrote:
> And what's the explanation for the sudden, drastic change in sound quality
> starting some time in 1930 or 1931, and continuing (I expect) until
> Brunswick matrices began to be recorded by ARC, in which powerful bass and
> reasonably clean, extended highs were replaced with a thinner balance and
> an apparent switch to multiple and close miking, giving an in-your-face
> effect with considerable distortion on louder passages (think Abe Lyman on
> 6125, Los Angeles matrix from 12 April 1931) and even vocals (Cab
> Calloway's 'Minnie the moocher' on 6074, New York matrix from 3 March 1931)?
>
> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:19 PM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
>
>> Brunswick electricals as well..famous for last notes trailing out while the
>> engineer is cutting the run-out, although French HMV (and on the odd
>> occasion,
>> English HMV) is far worse for chopping last notes. I also have a 30s
>> Brunswick
>> Helen Morgan where the run-out was cut separately and starts about 4 revs
>> before the cutting is finished..again, bye bye last notes.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 7/31/2012 9:59 AM, Philip Carli wrote:
>>> There are plenty of acoustical Brunswicks I have where I swear the
>> engineer was drunk - giving a "go-ahead" signal to Erno Rapee before the
>> turntable was up to speed and then having no fewer than five speed
>> variations over that same 12" side; stopping the turntable in the middle of
>> a final chord on Leopold Godowsky so the chord sudeenly rises "zip" like a
>> tape flying off the head - the list goes on. (and of course the whole
>> "Light-Ray" adventure.) PC
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com [
>> 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] on behalf of Mike Harkin [
>> xxm.harkin at yahoo.com]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 12:10 AM
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>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Setting new standards of awfulness   [fwd]
>>>
>>> Mid 30s electrical accompaniment overdubbed on Edison cylinder????
>>>
>>> Mike in Plovdiv
>>>
>>> --- On Tue, 7/31/12, Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Setting new standards of awfulness
>>>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 31, 2012, 2:52 AM
>>>> There, there. You'll get over it. Put
>>>> on a nice laminated black Columbia to cleanse your palette.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cary
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:49 PM, "David Lennick"<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Every once in a while you run across a record that
>>>> makes your jaw drop in terms
>>>>> of its horrible quality or ineptness in execution or ..
>>>> why the hell does it
>>>>> fade up in the middle of a verse and run only 2
>>>> minutes? Such a record is The
>>>>> Barry (Bagelman) Sisters "Kotereena" (pronounced
>>>> Katarina), on HIT 7094. What
>>>>> there is of it is a pretty good rhumba, with a pretty
>>>> good band with some hot
>>>>> klezmer clarinet, as well as the worst surface noise
>>>> anywhere, plus bumps and
>>>>> dropouts in the original source. This must have been
>>>> all that was salvageable
>>>>> from a broken or damaged master. And it's take 2 yet!
>>>> The other side is fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wotta mess...
>>>>>
>>>>> dl