[78-L] BBC Radio Goon Shows

[Royal Pemberton]

Parlophone was for years on the short end of the EMI budget stick.  So even
if Martin wanted to include Geldray and Elllington's music I doubt EMI
would have given him the budget to permit paying the fees required.

On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 5:54 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:

> Can we give George the benefit of the doubt and assume that EMI had no
> intention of paying for music cues and that he was directed to salvage as
> much
> of the shows as possible? Hey, some of us would cut Geldray and Ellington
> while
> we were taping those shows off the air.
>
> dl
>
> On 6/24/2012 12:44 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> > My experience with the CURRENT series of BBC restorations vs. the old
> > EMI versions BUTCHERED by George Martin are just as Alan Bunting
> > reports.  The BBC has worked with compiling and combining everything it
> > has of the episodes from the versions held by the Home Service and the
> > Transcription Service.  Some of the older BBC issues on LP and single
> > CDs did not benefit from this combining, and therefore might be missing
> > something that one of the services might have edited out. Beyond the
> > music, I understand that there were some domestic issues and/or
> > international comments that might have been edited from the dialog by
> > the Transcription Service that they thought was not appropriate for an
> > international audience, but these have been restored to the programs in
> > THIS release if the Home Service versions still existed.
> >
> > Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > From: Alan Bunting<alanbuntinguk at yahoo.com>
> >
> > All of the BBC Goon Show re-issues contain the Geldray and Ellington
> > musical items although, most frustratingly, they are not identified on
> > the last dozen or so collections.  I have looked in vain for a listing
> > of them on the various Goon Show WEB sites with no success.
> >
> > However, the few shows that were licensed and re-issued by EMI
> > (originally on LP and still available on CD) had not only the Geldray
> > and Ellington items edited but also most of the incidental music
> > (performed by Wally Stott and his Orchestra - the BBC Big Band had
> > nothing whatsoever to do with the Goon Show - it didn't even exist when
> > they were recorded.)
> >
> > Alan Bunting
> >
> >
> >> ________________________________
> >>
> >> On 24/06/12 09:49, RUSSELL BARNES wrote:
> >>> Hellow,
> >>>
> >>> Re The BBC issue on CD of the Goon Shows : Is it true the very good
> musical interludes with Max Geldray and the BBC Big Band have been edited
> out.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >> They aren't edited out when they are broadcast on BBC Radio 4 Extra. I
> >> don't rate Geldray very much--a lot of his solos consisted of quotes.
> >> Ray Ellington Quartet is fine. Are his contribution left in?
> >>
> >>     Julian Vein
> >
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