[78-L] 78-L Digest, Vol 45, Issue 20

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>   1. Re:  Radio Poets (Michael Biel)
>   2. Re:  Magix software (Dave Stuckey)
>   3. Re:  Magix software (leonard schwartz)
>   4. Re:  Radio Poets (Donna Halper)
>   5. Re:  Radio Poets (Michael Biel)
>   6. Re:  Radio Poets (Donna Halper)
>   7. Re:  Magix software (Ron L'Herault)
>   8. Re:  Magix software (leonard schwartz)
>   9. Re:  Magix software (neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com)
>  10. Re:  Magix software (leonard schwartz)
>  11. Re:  Magix software (simmonssomer)
>  12. Re:  Magix software (leonard schwartz)
>  13. Re:  magix software..... messages (leonard schwartz)
>  14.  Why I never made it to Union (Tim McCormick)
>  15. Re:  magix software.. (Mark Bardenwerper)
>  16.  New record auction #136 is now available!
>      (Hawthorn's Antique Audio)
>  17.  OT DVD query^ (Julian Vein)
>  18. Re:  magix software.. (leonard schwartz)
>  19. Re:  magix software..... messages (Don Cox)
>  20. Re:  magix software..... messages (Alan Bunting)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:06:44 -0700
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Radio Poets
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> Of course these Victor records had nothing to do with broadcasting. 
> Most major radio stations in 1922 had licenses that forbid mechanical
> reproductions including player pianos as well as phonographs.  That
> changed by 1924, but any station playing one of Edgar Guest's records
> would be completely coincidental to the existence of the records.  The
> most interesting note in the list is the movie soundtrack MVE-46206,
> probably from a listing in the newly re-discovered "Movie Book" ledger. 
> It does note, however, that the speaker is Bradley Barker.  This disc,
> like almost all in the book, is a post-sync disc made after the film had
> been made as a silent.
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Donna Halper <dlh at donnahalper.com>
> On 6/13/2012 9:04 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
>> http://victor.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/talent/detail/61020/Guest_Edgar_A._author
>> 
> 
> Wow, thanks for this. So there really was an entire series of records. 
> I can only imagine how exciting it was for radio fans to actually hear 
> their favorite poet on the air!
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:12:20 -0700
> From: Dave Stuckey <pappycalling at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
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> Hi Lenny --
> 
> The Magix program (I assume you're referring to Audio Cleaning Lab) is
> a great program I've been using for years. Adding material for a CD's
> worth of tunes is easy. If you're importing from CD, simply use the
> "Import" function to add a song to the sequence you're creating. If
> you're digitizing from vinyl/shellac, use the 'record' button, record
> your track (s) until the sequence shows a running time of 80 minutes
> or under. Trim/edit/clean your tracks if needed, then burn your
> sequence to CD or make mp3's with the 'Export' tab. No other programs
> needed.
> 
> Couldn't be easier.
> 
> I'll agree the Forum on the Magix site is pretty dead, but I've always
> gotten a response via email.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dave
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:17:02 -0700 (PDT)
> From: leonard schwartz <coonsanders at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> hi david..thanks but what im trying to9 do is say i want to burn 2 lps 2 a cd..assuming they are under 80 minates..all i can get is side 1 of an lp..this is usually 20 and theres still 60 minates on the cd..the is no "add button"to fill up that 60 minates remaing..do u know what i mean?
> 
> lenny
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Stuckey <pappycalling at gmail.com>
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com 
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> Hi Lenny --
> 
> The Magix program (I assume you're referring to Audio Cleaning Lab) is
> a great program I've been using for years. Adding material for a CD's
> worth of tunes is easy. If you're importing from CD, simply use the
> "Import" function to add a song to the sequence you're creating. If
> you're digitizing from vinyl/shellac, use the 'record' button, record
> your track (s) until the sequence shows a running time of 80 minutes
> or under. Trim/edit/clean your tracks if needed, then burn your
> sequence to CD or make mp3's with the 'Export' tab. No other programs
> needed.
> 
> Couldn't be easier.
> 
> I'll agree the Forum on the Magix site is pretty dead, but I've always
> gotten a response via email.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dave
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:31:59 -0400
> From: Donna Halper <dlh at donnahalper.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Radio Poets
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> 
> On 6/14/2012 3:06 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> Of course these Victor records had nothing to do with broadcasting.
>> Most major radio stations in 1922 had licenses that forbid mechanical
>> reproductions including player pianos as well as phonographs.
>> 
> 
> I wonder how thoroughly that ban was enforced.  I have actual playlists 
> from 1921-1922, and they show that phonograph records were played on 
> certain programs here in greater Boston.  I know Edison took a very dim 
> view of phonograph records being played on the air, and the Federal 
> radio Commission was persuaded circa 1927-28 to place restrictions on 
> so-called "canned music," but the ban got reversed several years later; 
> and even in the early 1920s, it certainly does seem that some stations 
> were playing records-- or am I misunderstanding what you said?
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:52:36 -0700
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Radio Poets
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> The regulations in question went into place in the middle of 1922 when
> the broadcast band was reorganized into just two frequencies for all of
> the stations to fit on!  Class A got the higher of the two frequencies
> which had worse propagation, lower power allotments, and no restriction
> on the use of mechanical reproductions.  The Class B stations got the
> lower frequency and higher power allotments in exchange for not using
> mechanical reproductions.  Before then there were no restrictions, so
> most of your lists would come from that era and then from Class A
> stations.  I think that WGY would have gotten an abatement to allow them
> to air the optical sound recordings of Christmas messages in December
> 1922 that Charles Hoxie had recorded of celebs like VP Coolidge several
> months earlier in Washington DC.
> 
> When the band was re-expanded, the ban on mechanical reproductions was
> lifted.
> 
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com  
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> From: Donna Halper <dlh at donnahalper.com>
> 
> On 6/14/2012 3:06 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> Of course these Victor records had nothing to do with broadcasting.
>> Most major radio stations in 1922 had licenses that forbid mechanical
>> reproductions including player pianos as well as phonographs.
>> 
> 
> I wonder how thoroughly that ban was enforced. I have actual playlists 
> from 1921-1922, and they show that phonograph records were played on 
> certain programs here in greater Boston. I know Edison took a very dim 
> view of phonograph records being played on the air, and the Federal 
> radio Commission was persuaded circa 1927-28 to place restrictions on 
> so-called "canned music," but the ban got reversed several years later; 
> and even in the early 1920s, it certainly does seem that some stations 
> were playing records-- or am I misunderstanding what you said?
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:02:49 -0400
> From: Donna Halper <dlh at donnahalper.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Radio Poets
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <4FDA4369.9060404 at donnahalper.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> On 6/14/2012 3:52 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> The regulations in question went into place in the middle of 1922 when
>> the broadcast band was reorganized into just two frequencies for all of
>> the stations to fit on!  Class A got the higher of the two frequencies
>> which had worse propagation, lower power allotments, and no restriction
>> on the use of mechanical reproductions.  The Class B stations got the
>> lower frequency and higher power allotments in exchange for not using
>> mechanical reproductions.
>> 
> 
> Yes, you are certainly correct.  But here's the problem, and I am sure 
> you know about this too:  by 1925, it became pretty obvious that the 
> Department of Commerce was doing an ineffective job enforcing the 
> rules.  Stations had begun artificially boosting their power, and wave 
> jumping (arbitrarily changing frequencies) was such a problem that 
> newspapers published disclaimers with their radio listings, saying they 
> basically had no idea where some of the stations might be on the dial 
> tonight.  So, that may be why I do see some mention of phonograph 
> records being played, even after 1922.
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:16:33 -0400
> From: "Ron L'Herault" <lherault at bu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> To: "'78-L Mail List'" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> 
> If you finalized the CD, I don't think you can add to it.
> 
> Ron L
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of leonard schwartz
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:17 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> hi david..thanks but what im trying to9 do is say i want to burn 2 lps 2 a
> cd..assuming they are under 80 minates..all i can get is side 1 of an
> lp..this is usually 20 and theres still 60 minates on the cd..the is no "add
> button"to fill up that 60 minates remaing..do u know what i mean?
> 
> lenny
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Stuckey <pappycalling at gmail.com>
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> Hi Lenny --
> 
> The Magix program (I assume you're referring to Audio Cleaning Lab) is a
> great program I've been using for years. Adding material for a CD's worth of
> tunes is easy. If you're importing from CD, simply use the "Import" function
> to add a song to the sequence you're creating. If you're digitizing from
> vinyl/shellac, use the 'record' button, record your track (s) until the
> sequence shows a running time of 80 minutes or under. Trim/edit/clean your
> tracks if needed, then burn your sequence to CD or make mp3's with the
> 'Export' tab. No other programs needed.
> 
> Couldn't be easier.
> 
> I'll agree the Forum on the Magix site is pretty dead, but I've always
> gotten a response via email.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dave
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 14:11:36 -0700 (PDT)
> From: leonard schwartz <coonsanders at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID:
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> 
> no what im referring to is compiling it before i burn it..
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Ron L'Herault <lherault at bu.edu>
> To: '78-L Mail List' <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> If you finalized the CD, I don't think you can add to it.
> 
> Ron L
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com] On Behalf Of leonard schwartz
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:17 PM
> To: 78-L Mail List
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> hi david..thanks but what im trying to9 do is say i want to burn 2 lps 2 a
> cd..assuming they are under 80 minates..all i can get is side 1 of an
> lp..this is usually 20 and theres still 60 minates on the cd..the is no "add
> button"to fill up that 60 minates remaing..do u know what i mean?
> 
> lenny
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Dave Stuckey <pappycalling at gmail.com>
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
> 
> Hi Lenny --
> 
> The Magix program (I assume you're referring to Audio Cleaning Lab) is a
> great program I've been using for years. Adding material for a CD's worth of
> tunes is easy. If you're importing from CD, simply use the "Import" function
> to add a song to the sequence you're creating. If you're digitizing from
> vinyl/shellac, use the 'record' button, record your track (s) until the
> sequence shows a running time of 80 minutes or under. Trim/edit/clean your
> tracks if needed, then burn your sequence to CD or make mp3's with the
> 'Export' tab. No other programs needed.
> 
> Couldn't be easier.
> 
> I'll agree the Forum on the Magix site is pretty dead, but I've always
> gotten a response via email.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> Dave
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 18:42:55 -0500
> From: "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com" <neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Magix software
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> On 6/14/2012 2:17 PM, leonard schwartz wrote:
>> hi david..thanks but what im trying to9 do is say i want to burn 2 lps 2 a cd..assuming they are under 80 minates..all i can get is side 1 of an lp..this is usually 20 and theres still 60 minates on the cd..the is no "add button"to fill up that 60 minates remaing..do u know what i mean?
> 
> Sounds like you need to capture your records into a computer at one Are 
> you trying to burn to CD in real time? Perhaps you should capture your 
> records into the computer at one time and then burn to CD.
> 
> You may be able to add to a compilation, as long as you don't finish, 
> finalize or close it. I do this frequent


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