[78-L] Rozsa dates

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Mon May 28 16:12:33 PDT 2012


I should have remembered, they WERE simultaneous releases..453, 454 and 456 are 
all listed in Schwann (March 1954, I don't have anything earlier except 1951).

On 5/28/2012 6:13 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> You're correct about the L and P designations..they're listed that way in
> Schwann in 1954. Prefixes aside, why would 453, 454 and 456 not have been
> issued at the same time? Capitol did this with many albums (usually classical)
> that could be two ten-inch singles and a double twelve-incher. There were also
> a number of reissues once the ten-inch format was dead, but this is not a
> reissue. By the way, what's on 452? There's a hole there in Randy Stewart et
> al's Capitol discography.
>
> I still question whether the Spellbound Concerto was recorded this late. The
> sound in no way matches the Quo Vadis Suite and sounds like an old tape
> horribly over-equalized. The Red House has better sound and that's taken from
> 16" lacquers recorded in Hollywood in 1947!
>
> dl
>
> On 5/28/2012 4:19 PM, Kristjan Saag wrote:
>> The 10'' LP with music from Quo Vadis (Capitol L 454 - not T 454) and
>> the 10'' LP with music from "Spellbound" (L 453 - not T 453) were, as
>> you say, suites - not just assorted cues from the soundtracks - which
>> probably motivated the new issues. Kloss and Rosza were close
>> collaborators and the Capitol 10'' LP's and the subsequent 12'' P 456
>> (later T 456) were most certailnly done with Roszas consent.
>> The release date of the P 456 seems to have been November 1953 -
>> Billboard has an article that mentions the issue:
>> http://books.google.se/books?id=aAoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46&dq=erich+kloss&hl=en&sa=X&ei=KNrDT8KiMszU4QTp__iRCg&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=erich%20kloss&f=false
>> Which means that the 10'' albums were out before that. Most
>> discographers have 1953 as issue date for both L 453 and L 454 (see, for
>> instance: http://www.bsnpubs.com/capitol/04capitol450-599.html) so early
>> 1953 is a good guess, with recording dates in 1952.
>> Kristjan
>>
>> On 2012-05-28 18:56, David Lennick wrote:
>>> Does anyone know the approximate recording dates for the Miklos Rozsa suites on
>>> Capitol T456 (ten-inch versions on T453 and T454)? The lp issues date from 1954
>>> but the recordings vary so much in quality and 1954 is a late date for a 1951
>>> score which had already appeared in soundtrack form on MGM.
>>>
>>> SPELLBOUND CONCERTO..Erich Kloss&    Frankenland State Orchestra (the recording
>>> is so muddy, I doubt that it's from as late as 1954)
>>>
>>> THE RED HOUSE..Rosza&    Studio Orchestra (this is definitely the 78RPM set
>>> recorded in 1947)
>>>
>>> QUO VADIS SUITE..Kloss&    Frankenland State Orchestra again (COULD be 1954..)
>>>
>>> dl
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