[78-L] Judy Canova Records

[David Lennick]

They seemed more inclined to do this in Britain..MEMORIES OF ITMA (Tommy 
Handley) was on Oriole 78s even before it was on LP.

As to whether it was recorded in stereo and could have been issued by Camden 
that way, we're still waiting for Mr. Lewis to find his Golden Age of Comedy lp 
(and I'm still looking for mine..finding tons of other stuff, but not that one) 
and see if it gives a date, which I'm sure it does. Mono lps were still 
outselling stereo in 1960 and an lp highlighting sketches from old radio 
scripts on a budget label probably wasn't worth their while to issue in stereo. 
The Bickersons, different story.

dl

On 3/16/2012 5:59 PM, David Lewis wrote:
>
> Thanks for the data. Of course, I did not say "impossibly early as such to exclude every option," but "a little early." And Mr. Lennick listed nine LPs, and I'm
> sure there are at least a few more. But nothing like the welter of LPs that came in the wake of "Themes Like Old Times." Within a few years of that album,
> you could find at least one episode of just about any of the programs that had a theme on that album.
>
> Of course, music programming derived from OTR was extensively marketed in the 50s, and that supports my other statement; sure, I know you can get
> fantastic sound from 1930s and 1940s recordings. I try to extract that day after day in my own work, and I have been blown away by what Seth Winner
> can do with recordings of FM feeds from that era. But in 1960, we didn't have that; listen to the Miller reissues, Benny Goodman, fake stereo, Ethel Gabriel
> tranfers, what have you. If the Canova recordings had been taken from originals they would have been drowned in reverb.
>
> Dr. B wrote:
>
>> I also have a Canova LP on Craftsman.
>
> Indeed, that must have been the source for the cheapies, as she has one out on Coronet as well. Probably the
> same album.
>
> Thanks for all of your digging!
>
>
> Uncle Dave Lewis
> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
>
> [78-L] Judy Canova Records
>
>
>
> OTR on lp by 1960:
>
> WAR OF THE WORLDS, of course (Audio Rarities)
> JOHN BARRYMORE Shakespeare excerpts (ditto)
> ROBERT BENCHLEY (ditto)
> DUFFY'S TAVERN (Jay, I think, from the Top Ten set)
> 	(never actually seen this one)
> ORIGINAL AMATEUR HOUR 25TH ANNIVERSARY ALBUM (United Artists)
> WILL ROGERS (Distinguished DR 3001)
> WILL ROGERS SAYS (Columbia)
> YOU ARE THERE (several albums issued on Columbia, late 40s)
> CANDID MICROPHONE (3 volumes on Columbia, early 50s, so it was NTR at the time)
>
> dl
>
> On 3/16/2012 3:09 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> Actually 1960 was not too early for OTR on LP. Remember, the last 5 of
>> the Al Jolson 12-inch Decca LPs were all off of the Kraft Music Hall
>> broadcasts.   It was also represented by the Stan Freberg Show albums on
>> Capitol.  Of course, if you take the OTR Digest webmaster Charlie
>> Summers' definition of OTR and NTR (New Time Radio), the cut-off point
>> is the end of the CBS Sunday Afternoon dramas in 1962.  I had always
>> thought of the Canova album as being from broadcasts -- sound quality
>> this good CAN date fro the 40s and even the 30s  -- but you are right in
>> that these might be from a reunion.  My question would be why it would
>> thus not have been recorded in stereo by then if done BY RCA Victor.
>> There is a chance that these might have been done for NBC Monitor.  I'll
>> have to see what Canova broadcasts I have and what my fellow OTR friends
>> think.
>>
>> I also have a Canova LP on Craftsman.
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>> On 3/16/2012 11:16 AM, Bud Black wrote:
>>> Didn't Judy Canova record for Decca?  I have her Decca of "Well Well" which states on the label that the tune is from her movie "Sis Hopkins."
>>>
>>> Bud
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 10:10 AM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>    wrote:
>>>
>>>> The cast reunited to make that album. Not sure if it was intended for Camden or
>>>> ended up there after some other arrangement fell apart..some Camdens were
>>>> intended for Vik, the Nancy Walker album was originally issued as a stereo tape
>>>> somewhere else. I'm not aware of any Judy Canova Victors in the 40s.
>>>>
>>>> There should be a recording date on the Golden Age of Comedy album (my copy is
>>>> buried somewhere at the moment). The Camden notes refer to Judy wanting to join
>>>> the current craze for comedy albums and has a 1960 copyright date. Odd
>>>> thing..my Canadian pressing was done by Sparton, not by RCA Canada. Some
>>>> Camdens got farmed out for some reason.
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> On 3/16/2012 2:37 AM, David Lewis wrote:
>>>>> Have picked up the LP RCA Camden CAL 662, "Judy Canova." I found my copy without a cover, but by chance, in excellent shape still. I
>>>>> can understand why the cover is gone; those Camden albums have thin, cheap covers and they split apart.
>>>>>
>>>>> Judy made records for RCA Victor in the 1940s. I had thought one of these were used for LPV-580, "The Golden Age of Comedy" (1972).
>>>>> But that same track is on this Camden album.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tracks here sound like straight up routines from her radio program, which ran from 1943 to 1955, a very wide range. They feature
>>>>> the same actors who did the show: Mel Blanc, Sheldon Leonard, Verna Felton, Joseph Kearns and Hans Conreid. Does anyone know if
>>>>> this material was taken from airchecks, and whether her 78 issues were drawn from the same pool of airchecks or independently made
>>>>> studio recordings? This LP was produced in 1960, which seems a bit early for OTR on vinyl LP for me, though I may simply be familiar
>>>>> with the Murray Hill&     Radio Yesteryear stuff that appeared in the late 1960s.
>>>>>
>>>>> Uncle Dave Lewis
>>>>> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
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