[78-L] 20" Pathe, yours for only 5 grand!

[bruce78rpm at comcast.net]

What I was talking about was the American pathe 16" (Giant) Pathe records that first made their appearance toward the mid 1920's. Not to be confused with their European Counterparts. I have a sleeve from one of these records, and that is says "Play this record on the Pathe Concert Actuelle Only". As for the other information I gave you about these oddities, that is coming directly from the 2nd Edition of "Pathe Records and Phonographs in America, 1914-1922" by George Copeland & Ronald Dethlefson. The bottom of Page 33 states as follows "There was, however a last Vertical cut U.S. Pathe product. The Pathe Company pressed vertical-cut discs for the Music Service Co. Inc. in 1923 & 1924. These were 15 5/8" high-speed (130rpm?) records intended for dance halls and movie houses where extra volume was critical. Known examples, according to discographer Martin Bryan, duplicate regular 10" Pathe-Perfect Material. There are no clues as to the prices of the records or the machine used to play them (The Pathe Concert Actuelle), this could mean that these products were leased, but not sold outright. 

Bruce 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bertrand CHAUMELLE" <chaumelle at orange.fr> 
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 12:19:06 PM 
Subject: Re: [78-L] 20" Pathe, yours for only 5 grand! 

I have one 16" Pathé (Pathégraphe- Cours d'anglais C1424) with the same 
sleeve as shown on the 20" record. The speed is 100rpm and it can be 
played on any phonograph (vertical cut), they say. But why would it be 
necessary to have loudness for English lessons ? 

BC 
> 
> On 2/7/2012 9:27 AM, bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote: 
>> These 16" Vertical Groove Pathe records were from the early 1920's, 
>> designed to play at very high speed (120 rpm) I believe, and thus 
>> create the louder sound necessary to play in dance halls, or large 
>> auditoriums. They were advertised to play only on a Pathe Concert 
>> Actuelle Phonograph. I have only seen photos of a Concert Actuelle 
>> Phonograph, but I have heard that there is actually one that exists 
>> and owned by someone in the New York area. You can also play these 
>> records on a more modern Transcription Turntable. 
>> 
>> Bruce 
>> 

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