[78-L] Have RCA question.

[David Lennick]

I have it, but not as a late pressing..I have the standard rose label vinyl 78. 
E-80 is the album number (I don't have the album, but these were 4-disc sets of 
music for schools). I'll time the 3 tracks so Dennis can report whether the 
timings match up at 45.

DANCE (0:37, plays in E minor)
PLAY ON THE BEACH (0:57, plays in E minor)
PLAY No. 2 (0:50, plays in A flat minor)
Interesting music to play for kids! My copy has locked grooves after each 
selection.

dl

On 2/7/2012 7:01 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> Dennis has sent an off-list scan to Lenneck and I, and it is a standard
> black label with color nipper that doesn't seem at all that unusual.  It
> is in the educational series as E-80, with matrix number E1EB-4138 on
> side A.  It is a late (post-1954) pressing of a 1951 matrix, the final B
> meaning 10-inch standard groove 78.  BUT, Dennis claims it runs at 45
> RPM.  It has three tracks, 1) Dance (Bartok), 2) Play on the Beach and
> 3) Play No. 2 from "Pictures from Childhood" by Mompou).  RCA Victor
> Orchestra, Ardon Cornwell, Cond.  There are no timings on the label.  Is
> it REALLY 45 RPM?  Anybody else have a copy for comparison.  It is
> possible that someone mad a mistake in setting the turntable speed for a
> re-cutting for this late pressing
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> On 2/7/2012 1:47 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> We need more information.  Was the Nipper in full color or just
>> outline?  Is the label glossy?  What color is the label.  What are the
>> matrix numbers if they are different from the record number?  Is this
>> vinyl or shellac?  If vinyl, is it regular thickness or very thin?  Is
>> there a pressing plant letter in the lead-out area (I, R, or H)?  What
>> are the titles?  The Nipper you are talking about is at the top center,
>> and not on the lower left as a picture commonly seen on the children's
>> records?
>>
>> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>>
>> On 2/6/2012 10:48 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> On 2/6/2012 10:42 PM, David Breneman wrote:
>>>>      From: Dennis Flannigan<dennis.flannigan at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have a 10" RCA Victor record, 45-5039, featuring the RCA Victor
>>>>> Orchestra. Beautiful color label with Nipper seemingly licking the horn.
>>>>> Sniffing, I suspect.
>>>>>
>>>>> It plays at 45 rpm. Apparently there was a 45-5000 series. I've found no
>>>>> direction on the Internet on where to get information. Is it an anomaly? Is
>>>>> it a precursor to the 45 that RCA developed. Is it common, and I don't know
>>>>> what I'm talking about? Don't reflect too deeply on the last question.
>>>> I have a DJ pressing of Pee Wee King's "Slow Poke" like that.  It
>>>> looks just like a regular vinyl 10" 78 DJ release, white label with
>>>> black print, but it plays at 45.  I asked about it here several
>>>> years ago but everyone was stumped.
>>>> _____________________________________________
>>> Okay, this can't be a precursor to the 45 since Slow Poke came out in late
>>> 1951. But the 45-5000 series is children's, and if it's the Victor Orchestra it
>>> was originally rose color and then full color black label. And if that one
>>> plays at 45, well that's something I don't know about....!
>>>
>>> dl
>>>