[78-L] Have RCA question.

[Michael Biel]

Dennis has sent an off-list scan to Lenneck and I, and it is a standard 
black label with color nipper that doesn't seem at all that unusual.  It 
is in the educational series as E-80, with matrix number E1EB-4138 on 
side A.  It is a late (post-1954) pressing of a 1951 matrix, the final B 
meaning 10-inch standard groove 78.  BUT, Dennis claims it runs at 45 
RPM.  It has three tracks, 1) Dance (Bartok), 2) Play on the Beach and 
3) Play No. 2 from "Pictures from Childhood" by Mompou).  RCA Victor 
Orchestra, Ardon Cornwell, Cond.  There are no timings on the label.  Is 
it REALLY 45 RPM?  Anybody else have a copy for comparison.  It is 
possible that someone mad a mistake in setting the turntable speed for a 
re-cutting for this late pressing

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com

On 2/7/2012 1:47 AM, Michael Biel wrote:
> We need more information.  Was the Nipper in full color or just
> outline?  Is the label glossy?  What color is the label.  What are the
> matrix numbers if they are different from the record number?  Is this
> vinyl or shellac?  If vinyl, is it regular thickness or very thin?  Is
> there a pressing plant letter in the lead-out area (I, R, or H)?  What
> are the titles?  The Nipper you are talking about is at the top center,
> and not on the lower left as a picture commonly seen on the children's
> records?
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
> On 2/6/2012 10:48 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>> On 2/6/2012 10:42 PM, David Breneman wrote:
>>>     From: Dennis Flannigan<dennis.flannigan at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have a 10" RCA Victor record, 45-5039, featuring the RCA Victor
>>>> Orchestra. Beautiful color label with Nipper seemingly licking the horn.
>>>> Sniffing, I suspect.
>>>>
>>>> It plays at 45 rpm. Apparently there was a 45-5000 series. I've found no
>>>> direction on the Internet on where to get information. Is it an anomaly? Is
>>>> it a precursor to the 45 that RCA developed. Is it common, and I don't know
>>>> what I'm talking about? Don't reflect too deeply on the last question.
>>> I have a DJ pressing of Pee Wee King's "Slow Poke" like that.  It
>>> looks just like a regular vinyl 10" 78 DJ release, white label with
>>> black print, but it plays at 45.  I asked about it here several
>>> years ago but everyone was stumped.
>>> _____________________________________________
>> Okay, this can't be a precursor to the 45 since Slow Poke came out in late
>> 1951. But the 45-5000 series is children's, and if it's the Victor Orchestra it
>> was originally rose color and then full color black label. And if that one
>> plays at 45, well that's something I don't know about....!
>>
>> dl
>>
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