[78-L] Identification on Test Pressings

Sat Jan 14 12:39:12 PST 2012

Thanks Don - I agree that the song is Whispering Hope, but is it possible 
that the title could have been different for this pressing? This is very 
common where similar songs have different titles in many of the pre-war 
country records I collect, but it's probably not as rampant in early popular 
recordings. Also, does the Rust-Brooks Columbia Discography list the 
unissued titles as well? I suppose it does if it is the same book that 
Malcolm Rockwell was using.
So I'm still not 100% either way, but I suppose the more likely is the 
Kerns/Potter. The more I look at that faded pencil, the more it looks like 
Powell?
Thanks again everyone!
Malcolm

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-----Original Message----- 
From: Don Chichester
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:04 PM
To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings

I know the lyrics to that song.  I had a Victor pressing of it when I was a 
kid.  I Googled the phrase, and it verified my recollection.  Then I went to 
Rust-Brooks Columbia Discography, found two cuts, one too early for you, the 
other seemed right.  Voila!

Don

> From: malcolm at venerablemusic.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 13:34:11 -0500
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings
>
> Thanks Don - Can I ask how you were able to figure it out? I do hear the
> them say the words Whispering Hope!
> Malcolm
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> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Don Chichester
> Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 1:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings
>
>
> "Whispering Hope", Grace Kerns-Mildred Potter, vocal duet w/orch, 1-15-22,
> Col A-1686, mx 39792-1-2-3 Rust, Columbia Vol II)
>
> Don Chichester
>
>
> > From: malcolm at venerablemusic.com
> > To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> > Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2012 12:33:13 -0500
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings
> >
> > Nope - Not Spanish and not 12". The first line in the chorus is Wait 
> > Till
> > The Darkness is Over.
> > Malcolm
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> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: David Lennick
> > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 12:23 PM
> > To: 78-L Mail List
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings
> >
> > Any chance that the duet is in Spanish? 5xxx matrix numbers are Spanish
> > and
> > Mexican, and 5xxx catalog numbers have to be twelve-inch.
> >
> > dl
> >
> > On 1/14/2012 12:05 PM, Malcolm - Venerable Music wrote:
> > > Great - I could not make out the artists, but now see it's Yerkes. 
> > > They
> > > are
> > > 10" and the first is A3091 as you suspected.
> > > The second is almost surely a 5 as the first number but the other 
> > > three
> > > are
> > > tough. Could be 5883 or 5683??
> > > Are they definitely Columbias?
> > > Malcolm
> > >
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Lennick
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 11:58 AM
> > > To: 78-L Mail List
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Identification on Test Pressings
> > >
> > > The first one is Yerkes Orchestra, intended as Columbia A3091..that 
> > > much
> > > is
> > > visible on the label, but there's no numerical listing in the Columbia
> > > books
> > > so
> > > off to Tyrone's site we go..
> > >
> > > ..and that doesn't help because according to it, A3091 is in the
> > > Educational
> > > Series and is the Columbia Orchestra playing March of the Little Lead
> > > Soldiers
> > > and Venetian Love Song, both recorded in the mid 1910s.
> > >
> > > dl
> > >
> > > On 1/14/2012 11:43 AM, Malcolm - Venerable Music wrote:
> > >> Hello Everyone – I just picked up 2 test pressings and have no idea 
> > >> how
> > >> to
> > >> trace them back for artist& title information.
> > >> They are from the early 20s. TP_1 is mainly a xylophone solo with
> > >> typical
> > >> orchestra background& TP_2 is a female vocal duet.
> > >>
> > >> The markings on TP_1 A5091. TP_2 is harder to read, but the numbers
> > >> appear
> > >> to be 5683?? There is nothing in the dead wax of either pressing.
> > >>
> > >> Here are links to view the labels -
> > >>
> > >> http://www.venerableradio.com/TP_1.jpg
> > >> http://www.venerableradio.com/TP_2.jpg
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >> Malcolm
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