[78-L] Cinnamon Bear ETs, WAS: William Frawley records and the Cinnamon Bear

David Lennick dlennick at sympatico.ca
Sat Dec 31 06:01:59 PST 2011


The promo disc plays at 33, about 8 minutes a side. It's included in the FGRA 
issue, along with the single discs of all the songs..those came out on 7-inch 
78s in the early 50s when the Cinnamon Bear was turned into a TV series, still 
using the original 1937 transcriptions as the soundtrack.

G. N. MacKenzie Limited was still sending the transcriptions out from Toronto 
in the early 60s, I believe..maybe to markets in The Bahamas. I found 3 
complete sets and a few isolated discs when their storage facility was about to 
be emptied to make room for office space. All recirculated now except for the 
remaining promo disc.

dl

On 12/31/2011 1:36 AM, Sammy Jones wrote:
> Cinnamon Bear update:
>
> Upon further inspection some of my discs are black vinyl, some are solid red
> vinyl, and some are translucent red vinyl.  All have Bruce Ellis Program
> Library Service labels, except one disc that has a Bruce Ellis label on one
> side, and the custom-designed Cinnamon Bear label on the other.  An example
> can be seen online here:
> http://www.radioarchives.com/The_Complete_Cinnamon_Bear_p/ra031.htm
>
> Except there's one small difference!  Where David's disc (as represented on
> the Radio Archives site) says Radio Transcription Co. of America, Ltd., this
> lone disc has:
>
> LOU R. WINSTON
> 1651 Cosmo Street
> Hollywood, 28, Calif.
>
> Who was Lour R. Winston?  Possibly the heir to TRANSCO?  This label has a
> handwritten date of 12/17/46, where the Bruce Ellis labels usually have
> multiple dates from the '50s stamped on.
>
> One more note about dates:  One disc has a date from 1960 stamped on it!
> Has it ever been determined when the Cinnamon Bear ceased to be syndicated
> to local markets on 16" ET?  It seems likely that if the program continued
> to be syndicated into the '60s and '70s tape dubs or 12" microgroove
> pressings would have been used.
>
> David, does that Cinnamon Bear promo disc run at 78 rpm?
>
> Sammy Jones
>
>
> dl wrote:
> The Cinnamon Bear was still being syndicated in the 50s..check the FGRA
> website
> for label scans of all the versions I had (that was my transfer they
> issued).
> I've seen it on red vinyl, black vinyl, and laminated shellac. By the way, I
> still have one copy of the promo disc.
>
> Bill Frawley..great album! 1957, mono only.
> http://www.bsnpubs.com/dot/dotb.html
> Google Bill and you'll find some interesting stories, including one that has
> him introducing "Melancholy Baby" to drunken requests..evidently "Sing
> Melancholy Baby" has historical truth to it.
>
> dl
>
> On 12/30/2011 4:39 PM, Sammy Jones wrote:
>> Hello, all,
>>
>> I've just returned from my local Atlanta used record store (Wax 'n' Facts
>> on
>> Moreland AVE).  No 78s there, but a large selection of LPs.  I came away
>> with the following treasure:
>>
>> Bill Frawley Sings the Old Ones, with the Jack Halloran Singers, and
>> orchestra directed by Perry Botkin, Dot DLP 3061
>>
>> It's a collection with songs from his vaudeville days like "Moonlight Bay"
>> and "Shine On, Harvest Moon."  Definitely recorded after "I Love Lucy"
>> began
>> in 1951, as it references Frawley being "made famous all over again as
>> Fred
>> Mertz."  Any recording details available?
>>
>> And more to the point, did William Frawley ever make any 78s or cylinders?
>> He was born in the 1880s.
>>
>> On a Christmas-related note, I just got a complete set of the Cinnamon
>> Bear
>> on ET.  The discs have Bruce Ellis labels; not Transco...but I guess they
>> could be pasteovers.  Anybody know if the Cinnamon Bear was ever repressed
>> in the '50s?
>>
>> Sammy Jones
>
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