[78-L] Coast Records
Jeff Sultanof
jeffsultanof at gmail.com
Fri Dec 9 04:07:36 PST 2011
Bantam would have been his own record label; when the songs came up for
renewal, his estate put his share in the Bantam catalog. No doubt he sold
the recordings. Makes sense.
All of this suggests to me that he paid for these sessions himself and
issued them on his own label, then sold or leased them elsewhere.
Thank you,
Jeff
On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 11:02 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>wrote:
> Okay, I am correcting myself..the paste-over labels are on TOP of Coast,
> and
> they're BANTAM Records. And those are red and blue. The Coast labels
> are..black? Here's what Lord shows for Isham Jones on Coast:
>
> New York, c. 1947
> M-61 It had to be you (cm vcl) Coast 8022
> M-63 On the Alamo (cm vcl) - , Living Era (E)CDAJA5320 [CD]
> The one I love belongs to somebody else (cm vcl) 8025
> I'll never have to dream again (cm vcl) -
> JRC-280-2 How many tears must fall ? (ba vcl) Bantam 9001
> JRC-282-2 She picked it up in Mexico (ba vcl) -
> Note: Other matrices for the last two titles are RL5242, DEX S-7 and
> RL5244,
> DEX S-7.
>
> 8022 and 8025 are the outside numbers for the set Jeff mentions, right? I
> bought this set some years ago, possibly from Tom Hawthorn, and they have
> Bantam labels. Blue. I also have Bantam 9001 and it's a vinyl pressing
> with red
> labels. Standard Transcription X-268 is Isham Jones, containing the
> following:
> Everytime I See You/I'll See You In My Dreams/I'll Never Have to Dream
> Again/It
> Had to Be You/To Good for My Own Good/She Picked It Up in Mexico/How Many
> Tears
> Must Fall?/My Best to You
>
> CM is Curt Massey. BA is Bob Allen. Jones hadn't recorded since some
> Associated
> sides in 1940, and didn't record again after the 1947 sides. I believe the
> Standards and Coasts are the same recordings, with 4 sides not mentioned by
> Lord on Coast 8023 and 8024.
>
> dl
>
> On 12/8/2011 10:37 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> > Could it be that Jones paid for the sessions and leased them to
> Standard? I
> > seem to recall that the paste-over labels on my 78s (which are SOMEWHERE
> around
> > here) were on top of another brand. I've definitely had red, blue and
> black
> > Coast labels.
> >
> > Standard was known to share, it seems to me. They had King Cole Trio
> recordings
> > common to Keystone Transcriptions. They also recorded the Don Cossack
> Choir,
> > and those recordings ended up on Concert Hall; their Paris Symphony
> Orchestra
> > recordings of some classical compositions were issued on Discovery; I
> doubt
> > that Elie Oberstein stole those Teddy Wilson tracks to put them out on
> Allegro.
> >
> > dl
> >
> > On 12/8/2011 9:04 PM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
> >> The Institute of Jazz Studies has copies of the original album of 4 78s
> on
> >> Coast, and I distinctly remember red labels. Can't remember now if they
> >> were pasted on.
> >>
> >> So if these sides were recorded originally for Standard, who would own
> them
> >> now, or is that question moot at this point?
> >>
> >> Jeff
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:21 PM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> And those same Isham Jones were originally (or concurrently) on
> Standard
> >>> Transcriptions. If I recall correctly, Dorothy Lamour also recorded for
> >>> Coast.
> >>> The Isham Jones 78s have paste-over labels, mostly blue but one I think
> >>> had red
> >>> labels.
> >>>
> >>> Capitol reissued things from a number of small California labels that
> >>> didn't
> >>> survive the transition to LP (and one or two that did, like Werner
> >>> Janssen's
> >>> ARTIST label).
> >>>
> >>> dl
> >>>
> >>> On 12/8/2011 7:09 PM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
> >>>> Can anyone tell me about, or direct me to information for this label
> (ca.
> >>>> 1947)? At least one of its albums was reissued by Capitol (Isham
> Jones),
> >>>> but I am unable to find out anything about the label itself. Did
> Capitol
> >>>> buy it outright.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Jeff Sultanof
> >>>> _______________________
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