[78-L] posting 78rpm records on YouTube - help!

[Philip Carli]

I wonder if the blocking of "Ol' Man River" is because of the original music rights and the Jerome Kern estate; the compositional output of certain American "musical institutions" like Kern and Irving Berlin still has numerous legal watchdogs out for non-royalty broadcasts or performances.  PC
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Subject: Re: [78-L] posting 78rpm records on YouTube - help!

That's correct.  Many videos are blocked in Germany, anything owned by Universal or the part of SME that was part of BMG.  I don't have a problem with that.  I don't mind the real owners claiming their rightful ownership.  For that reason, I won't upload anything I know is owned by Warner, because it's theirs, not mine, and if they don't want it uploaded that's their right.  On the other hand, I feel much warmer towards Sony, Universal, and others who allow me to post historical material that belongs to them, but which they can't/won't make available themselves.

What's really annoying me is that corporations seem to be able to claim ownership on material for which they have no right, and woe to you if you try to reason with them.

Tyrone


--- On Sun, 12/4/11, Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com> wrote:


From: Royal Pemberton <ampex354 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [78-L] posting 78rpm records on YouTube - help!
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Sunday, December 4, 2011, 11:51 AM


I've had some of my YT uploads show up with 'Matched third party content.'
flags including the Indian 78 I uploaded with Mohammad Rafi and Lata
Mangeshkar.  And my Mercury 78 disc of 'With my eyes wide open I'm
dreaming' by the Patti Page 'Quartet' is blocked in Germany!

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:56 PM, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> eBay removed a 1948 Ravens aircheck a few months back and never did explain
> what their reasoning was, beyond thinking it qualified as an unauthorized
> copy
> of something. Since I deal with eBay Canada and the copyright period here
> is
> still 50 years, this one was a little hard to understand. I haven't had any
> other airchecks or radio recordings come under scrutiny.
>
> dl
>
> On 12/4/2011 11:50 AM, bruce78rpm at comcast.net wrote:
> > I have gotten quite a few notices on videos and ancient records that I
> never dreamed that anyone had a legal interest in, going back as far as
> 1902. Orchard Music, seems to show up as the Perpetrator of many of these
> notices. I have no idea who they are, and what their legal interest
> actually is. The Only video I a have ever had Blocked, was the original
> "Rocket 88" on an original 78.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tyrone Settlemier "<talk78s. settlemier @ sbcglobal .net>
> > To: 78-l@ klickitat .78online.com
> > Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 11:31:15 AM
> > Subject: [78-L] posting 78rpm records on YouTube - help!
> >
> > Well, thanks to Warner Music Group, I have a strike on my account. They
> blocked " Ol' Man River" sung by Paul Robeson, as recorded for Victor on
> March 1, 1928. Matrix 43122 take 3. I wonder how Sony Music Entertainment
> feels about Warner claiming what is rightfully theirs?
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone else had similar issues, and how they handled
> it.
> >
> > Also an entity named "Music Publishing Rights Collecting Society"
> continues to place ownership notices on videos, not for the recording, but
> for the music itself, mostly of operatic material clearly in the public
> domain. Does anyone know anything about this group.
> >
> > I'd be delighted if experienced uploaders (Cliff?) would help me out.
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Tyrone
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