[78-L] Commodore Records Question

[Han Enderman]

The Sutton-Nauck label book (with ARLIE CD) is useful to study prewar label types which show diff. addresses,
and for postwar adresses you can consult Gart's ARLD (which poss. took dates from Billboard, which is online).

Looking at some Commodore label images, 
1 - the earliest address mentioned is on Com 100 (ARLIE type I & II): 
144 East 42nd Street, NYC (on Com Music Shop white labels).
2 - This is also the first address in the common 500 series (on Com 500 by Eddie Condon).
This variant of ARLIE type III is not shown on the ARLIE CD.
3 - Next (ARLIE IIIA) is 46 West 52nd Street, which was used as tune title 
"Forty-Six West Fifty-Two" by Chu Berry on 11 Nov 1938 (Com 516). 
Last known issue (to me) with this address is 542 by Condon.
4 - From Com 543 (Mel Powell) on, the address is 136 East 42nd Street. 
Last known issue (to me) with this address is 568 by Condon, recd 12-43 (date on label).
A July 1946 Commodore ad still lists this address.
5 - Later issues & reissues without address (ARLIE III B, IV).

han enderman
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>>> I talk a little bit about the Commodore shop in Chapter 1 of my Jazz Man book. The original Commodore store that Julius Gabler opened up in the early '20s was at 144 E. 42nd St., across the street from Grand Central Station next to the old Commodore Hotel (named for "Commodore" Cornelius Vanderbilt, hence the name). In 1938, Gabler's son Milt opened his own branch of the shop which became the famous record store at 46 W. 52nd St. I don't know anything about the first address at 136 E. 42nd St. unless it was an expanded address for the first shop, which basically sold radios, speaker supplies, and other electronic equipment. 
 
Cary Ginell
 

> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 18:34:01 +0000
> From: julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Commodore Records Question
> 
> The booklets accompanying the Mosaic Commodore LP set contains a lot of 
> information.
> 
> Julian Vein
> 
> ==============================
> 
> On 28/11/11 18:31, Glenn Longwell wrote:
> > Sounds like a good follow up book topic to Cary Ginell's Jazz Man Record Shop book...
> >
> > --- On Mon, 11/28/11, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> > From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Commodore Records Question
> > To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Date: Monday, November 28, 2011, 9:49 AM
> >
> > On 11/28/2011 9:04 AM, Clifford Bolling wrote:
> >> Greetings. Recently, I discovered that my Commodore records have different addresses shown on the labels, even records with the same songs can have different addresses. The 3 addresses I've noticed are:
> >>
> >> 136 East 42nd Street
> >> 144 East 42nd Street
> >> 46 West 52nd Street
> >>
> >> Is there a specific chronology to these labels? What was the purpose of using 3 different addresses?
> >>
> >> Thanks! CDB
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