[78-L] Long length Billy Murray acoustical Victors

[David Lennick]

I wonder if they used the same system on de Pachmann's Moonlight Sonata, which 
ran well over 5 minutes?

Looking at my Hit of the Weeks this afternoon, I noticed one late one (smaller 
label) which I'd marked as running 5:12.

dl


On 11/12/2011 7:36 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
> In keeping with our discussion of extra long and short length 78s, I
> came across a notation in Ryan Barna's on-line Billy Murray discography
> about the use of a matrix prefix BB which denotes special narrow
> grooving with more grooves per inch for longer lengths.  This was used
> on March 11, 1910 for two of the four sides recorded by Murray and the
> American Quartet.
>
>
> BB 8698-1       A Night Trip to Buffalo ("Two Irishmen in a Sleeping
> Car")
>                    Vic 16524-A             ("Special label")
> BB 8686-4       Casey Jones
>                    Vic 16483-A
>
>
> and on June 28, 1910 for another side
> BB 9142-1     Farmyard Medley
>                   Vic 16676-A
>
>
> Looking at the Encyclopedic Discography of Victor Recordings it is
> unclear if there also were alternate takes issued.
>
> For 16524-A they list both take -1 with the BB master from March 11, as
> well as -3 recorded on Nov 3, 1910 (but -3 has not been found in the
> Victor ledgers).  They list take -1 as also being issued on Vic 3513.
> The Library of Congress audio clip is timed at 3:41 but the take is not
> specified.
>
> For 16483-A, in addition to the BB take -4 from March 11 they list three
> other takes mastered and issued: -6 and -7 from May 13, 1910 and -12
> from Oct 10, 1911.
>
> They do not list an alternate take for Farmyard Medley on 16676-A, nor
> do they include a note about a BB prefix.
>
> So, check these three sides for timing but be sure to check your take
> numbers.  Were there different time lengths on different takes of these
> sides?
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
>
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