[78-L] Unusually long 78RPM sides [fwd]

[Mike Harkin]

One of the Hqydn Society discs on HMV runs about 6.5 min per side.  Couldn't get that partidula4 volume to fit on 60 min cassette no matter how I juggled.  Finally realised sides
were extra long.  IIRC it was the 'Joke' Quartet - appropriate!
 
One of Elgar's P&C marches runs nearly 5 min., and last side of Konoye's Mahler 4 dies in the runout tracks....
 
I think i've seen really SHORT sides only on Columbia....  Ravel's Septet supervised by him is stretched over 4 30cm sides, with one being no more than a minute and a halr.  They could have got it onto 4 25cm sides easily!  Go know!
 
Mike in Plovdiv 

--- On Tue, 11/8/11, David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:


From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [78-L] Unusually long 78RPM sides
To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 3:35 AM


Indeed, it looks like a standard 1929 English Columbia. I hadn't looked closely 
at the grooves and only noticed that after two minutes, the stylus wasn't 
halfway through. I misspoke when I said "a..side that pushes ten minutes", I 
meant both sides in total.

dl

On 11/7/2011 8:00 PM, Royal Pemberton wrote:
> So this record has the larger label size usually found on pre-1930 records,
> not the smaller more or less 3" label first used on longer records and then
> later adopted as standard?  Those grooves must be rather like those on a
> Polydor 10" 78 I have from the early 1950s, a pair of medleys by Lale
> Andersen.  Both sides are well over 5 minutes long, cut with variable
> pitch, and with grooving fine enough that they could have easily got 6
> minutes on each side.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 8:22 PM, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>  wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention that this is a ten-incher, Columbia 5341.
>>
>> There will now be a pause for Mike Biel to say "It just SEEMS like ten
>> minutes."
>>
>> On 11/7/2011 3:19 PM, David Lennick wrote:
>>> We've discussed this many times, and double-length 78 playing times were
>> common
>>> in the 50s..as well as in the early 30s with Hit Of The Week and
>> Columbia's
>>> Longer Playing Records. But I've never encountered an English Columbia
>> side
>>> from the 1920s that pushes 10 minutes until now, especially since UK
>> Columbia
>>> in particular went to rather shorter sides when electrical recording
>> came in
>>> (causing Holst to conduct his Planets much faster than he had on the
>> acoustical
>>> version). A pair of electioneering speeches by Ramsay MacDonald in 1929
>> runs
>>> 4:50 and 4:56 and they didn't have to shrink the labels.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>

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