[78-L] what makes a record valuable? was Ameri-Briticisms

Michael Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
Wed Jul 27 11:10:12 PDT 2011


On 7/27/2011 1:08 PM, Thatcher Graham wrote:
> I have very mixed feelings on the notion of value.
> When it comes to my genuinely rare items I'm usually not even sure what
> to do with them usually. I have a transcription from a broadcast of a
> Joe Louis fight, and glass acetates of the singer Helen Oelheim...  they
> both sit in a box so I don't break them. What kind of enjoyment is that?
>
>
> -Thatcher
>
YOUR personal "enjoyment" is secondary in this matter.  Joe Salerno's 
listings showed intrinsic value, and only secondary can we infer 
monetary value -- the monetary value that Robert Johnson 78s attract 
does not make them intrinsically valuable compared with the unissued 
test.  There is public interest in Joe Lewis fight broadcasts and THEY 
might be interested in it being distributed. Likewise, I suppose, Helen 
Oelheim, although I've never heard of her.  If you hold the only known 
copies, they have value whether you would enjoy them or not.

Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
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> On 7/27/2011 11:43 AM, bill freytag wrote:
>> While I have not had any appraisals done, I believe my test pressings of ~15 Summer to early Autumn Yank Swing Session transcriptions to be rather difficult to obtain.
>>
>>
>> From: "neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com"<neechevoneeznayou at gmail.com>
>> Very good question! And a new thread I believe.
>>
>> A Berliner. Black Patti. An Amos 'n Andy transcription on Marsh or
>> Brunswick. An item known to survive in only a handful of copies. Or a
>> unique item. An unknown instantaneous record made live or from radio by
>> an artist who made no or few recordings, or of a tune not recorded
>> commercially. A test pressing not previously known to exist of an
>> alternate take or tune not otherwise recorded by someone who made few
>> recordings (I'm thinking of that test pressing that Kurt found of Robert
>> Johnson, or some unissued takes of Horowitz of selections not otherwise
>> represented in his discography). A 20" Pathe.
>>
>> Something along those lines.
>>
>> What would you consider valuable, Joe?
>>
>> joe salerno
>>
>>
>> On 7/26/2011 1:28 PM, J. E. Knox wrote:
>>> Greetings from FixitLand!
>>>
>>> Joe Salerno wrote:
>>>
>>>> ...Anyone here ever found a really valuable record in a garage sale?
>>> Please define "really valuable."
>>> Take care,  Joe
>>>



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