[78-L] Greatest addicts

[Cary Ginell]

More per capita than most were in Woody Herman's Second Herd. The Four Brothers (Getz, Cohn, Sims, and Chaloff) were all strung out. If they weren't on heroin, they were on dope. Woody and Bill Harris were alcoholics. 

Cary Ginell

> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 21:31:43 +0200
> From: ekluwer at gmail.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: [78-L] Greatest addicts
> 
>  I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
> > general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
> > generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
> > peers.
> 
> Among the greatest (read: intake and muscial talent) drunks and drugs users
> were:
> 
> Bessie Smith
> 
> Billy Holiday
> 
> Hank Williams
> 
> Charlie Parker
> 
> Johnny Cash
> 
> Jerry Lee lewis
> 
> Jussi Bjorling
> 
> Charley Patton
> 
> Son House
> 
> Bix Beiderbecke
> 
> Charlie Poole
> 
> John Coltrane
> 
> Bix Beiderbecke
> 
> 
> "Our"   and olders generations don't seem to be bothered by it too
> much...since these were all true musical geniuses..
> 
> 
> Erwin
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 9:12 PM, buster <busterdog at mac.com> wrote:
> 
> > Not really all that different from Bix or many others. Whatever greatness
> > was there will be magnified by early death.
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Tom <nice_guy_with_an_mba at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > << To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
> > > << today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't
> > > << give a  rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in
> > > << sustaining it. >>
> > >
> > >
> > > All of the problems Amy Winehouse had are problems she created
> > > for herself.
> > >
> > > It would have been more appropriate and credible for her mother
> > > and father to have intervened on their daughter's behalf and have
> > > had Ms. Winehouse sent to rehab for some fairly extended period
> > > of time rather than expecting the VP of Finance at her record label
> > > to do so, though apparently even they -- i.e., her parents, not the
> > > record label execs -- viewed the situation as hopeless.
> > >
> > > If someone's really hellbent on destroying themselves it's kinda
> > > hard to prevent them from doing so.
> > >
> > >
> > > From: agp <agp2176 at verizon.net>
> > > To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 2:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [78-L] Amy Winehouse
> > >
> > > At 18:25 23/07/2011, CG wrote:
> > >
> > >> She'll be exploded into a musical media martyr now, no matter what
> > >> the quality of her work was (I was not a fan; in fact, I was kind of
> > >> repelled by her).
> > >
> > > On a peer basis she was far better than drivel on the radio today.
> > > One may argue that this is not saying much. I always felt that her
> > > voice had a 'blues/soul/ r&b' tint to it and that with the right
> > > direction could have matured to be part of many genre.
> > >
> > > I agree that she was 'repellant' with her tattoos and piercings and
> > > general presence -- drunkenness and drugged out. To some of 'our
> > > generation' this is rather disgusting, but apparently not to her
> > > peers. I have to wonder how many of us would have reacted to, say,
> > > Billie Holiday, given a similar environment.
> > >
> > > To a very big extent, I think that the evil that is the music biz
> > > today simply chewed her up and spit her out and really didn't give a
> > > rat's a$$ about her destructive nature or their part in sustaining it.
> > >
> > > T
> > >
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