[78-L] Request information on Bohumir Kryl - cornetist
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phonoband at verizon.net
Tue Jul 5 20:22:54 PDT 2011
Bohumir Kryl was among the greatest cornet soloists of his era, easily fitting in with Herbert L. Clarke, Walter F. Smith and Albert Bode. Born in Horice, Bohemia 5/2/1875 the son of stone mason and sculptor, he indeed learned this craft. He ran away with a circus at age 11 and performed as an acrobat and trapeze artist. It was during this time he took up the cornet and after only two weeks he was playing in the street parades common when the circus first arrived in town. After a serious accident he left the circus to come to America. Ever the industrious one, he played violin and cornet with the ship's orchestra to pay for his passage.
He headed West to Indianapolis where family friends had settled and he did sculpt the form of Ben Hur as well as working on the Soldiers' and Saliors' Monument in Indianapolis. At this time he was also playing with the When Clothing Company Band as solo cornet.
He played with the Sousa Band from 1894 through 1898, first as an assistant to Albert Bode, then Walter F. Smith eventually he became the solo cornetist. He left Sousa's Band for TP Brooke's Chicago Marine Band for two year, then on to the Duss Band at Madison Square Garden. in 1902 he accepted the solo cornet chair on the Innes Band. His first experience was to play two solo's per concert on a four month transcontinental tour (over 150 not including encores!).
He formed his own band and toured with them extensively. He recorded for a phenomenal number of companies including Victor, Edison, Zonophone, Pathe, Berliner and Norcross. As an example of his playing ability I would invite you to listen to Edison 2 minute 8253 (Carnival of Venice). Here in a brief two period he spans the range of pedal C to double high C (four octaves) and exhibits all the double and triple tongue fireworks of his contemporaries. He was extremely popular and hence his recordings are easy to find.
After a kurfuffle with the American Federation of Musicians he ceased all musical activity.
He died in Wilmington, NY 9/71961.
Best Regards,
Dan Reed
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> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 12:00:42 -0700
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
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> If you were the one who hit the skunk which is lying dead in the middle
> of the road, then it is natural to expect that you will be alone. Or
> alone together with the dead skunk.
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> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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> From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <rbratcherjr at yahoo.com>
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>> You didn't like Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road? I thought it
>> was a good song at the time. Enough to buy a copy of the 45 (which
>> I still have btw) although I haven't played it a long time. Alone
>> Again Narurally is a classic!! Great old song.....
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> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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>> One of the jocks at the Oshawa station finished playing a Jimmy Osmond
> record
>> and then butted out his cigarette on it. I cut "Dead Skunk" off
> halfway through
>> and said "Well, that's enough of that" but in that case, I was being
> edgy since
>> we hadn't even playlisted that one. And we did eventually play Alone
> Again
>> Naturally for real.
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>> On 6/30/2011 11:08 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>> I'd prefer Alone Again Naturally to You Light Up My Life but I'd
> still have to play both on the air if I was a DJ at the time. What did
> DJ's do when they aired a record they didn't like very well? Turn the
> monitor volume down to a low level until that record was finished or
> just leave the monotor level where it was& suffer through the record?
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>>> From: David Breneman<david_breneman at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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>>>> --- On Thu, 6/30/11, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>> I hated the song and told them to keep it
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>>>>> record. The song: Alone Again Naturally.
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>>>> Could have been worse. Could have been "You Light Up
>>>> My Life."
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>>>> ... Well, a *little* worse, anyway.
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> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 20:01:15 +0100
> From: Julian Vein <julianvein at blueyonder.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts
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> On 02/07/11 17:10, Taylor Bowie wrote:
>> I've scanned the first 40 or so pages and there seems to be quite a bit of
>> worthwhile 20s to mid-30s dance stuff, a lot of it on dime store labels.
>> There is a nice run of Benson Orch. Victors and for those who haven't
>> listened to many of those, you might be surprised at the quantity of
>> outstanding music on them.
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>> I noticed a couple of excellent Fred Rich ("Frank Auburn") titles including
>> A Peach of a Pair which has great Venuti-Lang.
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>> And a lot of Grey Gull dance stuff...some of that can be really good, too.
>> Ditto Broadway Bell Hops, B'way Broadcasters, etc. Some Ballews,
>> including 41000 Okehs...I don't think I'd advise repairing roads using them!
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>> A lot more than the few Albert Ammons Mercurys which David mentioned...I
>> wish I was back there to take a look in person.
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>> Taylor
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> The Ammons sides have all been reissued on a Mercury box set, running
> to one-and-a-half CDs. Even then they missed out a few takes, which have
> turned up on a Blues Document CD.
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> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:04:03 -0400
> From: "Thomas Stern" <sternth at attglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts
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> rough calc about 8k discs (320 pages, 25 per page)
> there are some I am interested in.
> Any Idea if they have a plan for disposal (e.g. sell them individually or bulk, on eBay, rummage sale, give away, discard, hold
> for ransom, ......)?
> I am no too far from Somerset.
> Thanks.
> Best wishes, Thomas.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: 78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com
> [mailto:78-l-bounces at klickitat.78online.com]On Behalf Of
> bruce78rpm at comcast.net
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 12:47 PM
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> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts
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> I'm only about 40 minutes away and certainly could take a ride down there and check it out. I actually met the gentleman who
> originally donated the collection to the Society, when I gave a lecture at the Society Headquarters about 10-15 years ago. He was
> very active in the Somerset Historical Society back then. He obviously must of have pasted on in the interim time period.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Taylor Bowie" <bowiebks at isomedia.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 12:30:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Lennick" <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2011 9:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts
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>> I didn't make it much past the gazillion Andrews Sisters titles except for
>> a
>> quick scan all the way down. No doubt there's some great stuff in there,
>> even
>> if it's 90% dross.
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>> dl
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> For making a snap judgment like that, I think you deserve a drossing down
> in public..
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> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 15:05:05 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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> When I hit the skunk I had to spend a great deal to get the car cleaned up, so
> I went to my friendly bank manager who said "A loan again!?" "Naturally."
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> <rimshot>
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> On 7/2/2011 3:00 PM, Michael Biel wrote:
>> If you were the one who hit the skunk which is lying dead in the middle
>> of the road, then it is natural to expect that you will be alone. Or
>> alone together with the dead skunk.
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>>
>> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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>> From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr."<rbratcherjr at yahoo.com>
>>
>>> You didn't like Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road? I thought it
>>> was a good song at the time. Enough to buy a copy of the 45 (which
>>> I still have btw) although I haven't played it a long time. Alone
>>> Again Narurally is a classic!! Great old song.....
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>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 10:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
>>>
>>> One of the jocks at the Oshawa station finished playing a Jimmy Osmond
>> record
>>> and then butted out his cigarette on it. I cut "Dead Skunk" off
>> halfway through
>>> and said "Well, that's enough of that" but in that case, I was being
>> edgy since
>>> we hadn't even playlisted that one. And we did eventually play Alone
>> Again
>>> Naturally for real.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> On 6/30/2011 11:08 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>>> I'd prefer Alone Again Naturally to You Light Up My Life but I'd
>> still have to play both on the air if I was a DJ at the time. What did
>> DJ's do when they aired a record they didn't like very well? Turn the
>> monitor volume down to a low level until that record was finished or
>> just leave the monotor level where it was& suffer through the record?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: David Breneman<david_breneman at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 9:56 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Thu, 6/30/11, David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca> wrote:
>>>>>> I hated the song and told them to keep it
>>>>>> till they had a real
>>>>>> record. The song: Alone Again Naturally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could have been worse. Could have been "You Light Up
>>>>> My Life."
>>>>>
>>>>> ... Well, a *little* worse, anyway.
>>>>>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 12:14:59 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <rbratcherjr at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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> ?No I never hit a skunk with anything. Not even a car or truck. But I do live alone with all of my records as some others on the list do.
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> From: Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com>
>> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 2:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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>> If you were the one who hit the skunk which is lying dead in the middle
>> of the road, then it is natural to expect that you will be alone.? Or
>> alone together with the dead skunk.
>>
>>
>> Mike Biel? mbiel at mbiel.com?
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>> From: "Robert M. Bratcher Jr." <rbratcherjr at yahoo.com>
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>>> You didn't like Dead Skunk In The Middle Of The Road? I thought it
>>> was a good song at the time. Enough to buy a copy of the 45 (which
>>> I still have btw) although I haven't played it a long time. Alone
>>> Again Narurally is a classic!! Great old song.....
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 19:58:14 +0000 (UTC)
> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts^
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> Oh my, sticky sort all right. Kinda like you falling into or maybe being pushed into a giant vat of those down melted down Andrew Sisters, and Alma Gluck 78's in that collection. A great way for the Record Professor to pass on !. LOL!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Biel" <mbiel at mbiel.com>
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2011 2:48:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Record Trove in Massachusetts^
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> From: bruce78rpm at comcast.net
>> I actually met the gentleman who originally donated the collection to the Society,
>> when I gave a lecture at the Society Headquarters about 10-15 years ago. He was
>> very active in the Somerset Historical Society back then. He obviously must of
>> have pasted on in the interim time period.
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> He must have been a sticky sort of fellow to have pasted on.
>
> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2011 15:11:46 -0500
> From: Mark Bardenwerper <citrogsa at charter.net>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] One or three holes?
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> On 7/2/2011 2:00, Michael Biel wrote:
>> If you were the one who hit the skunk which is lying dead in the middle
>> of the road, then it is natural to expect that you will be alone. Or
>> alone together with the dead skunk.
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> ...again, naturally.
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> --
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 16:17:04 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [78-L] two or three questions about Gershwin/Shilkret
> American in Paris
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> ?on the Gershwin/Shilkret recording of American In Paris - Feb 4 1929 Victor 35964
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> 1-Can someone identify the trumpet soloist(s) (the bluesy part beginning with part three and the "hot" sequence that opens side four)
> 2-in the taxi horn sequence, those sure sound like authentic taxi horns - any documentation that these are the ones George brought home with him??
>
> Rodger
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> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 20:01:38 -0400
> From: Jeff Sultanof <jeffsultanof at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] two or three questions about Gershwin/Shilkret
> American in Paris
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> Those taxi horns were the ones that Gershwin obtained. The Shilkret
> recording was too important not to have them. Gershwin was at the recording
> session and played the celeste part.
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> No idea who the trumpet player is. Doesn't RCA have a personnel listing?
>
> Jeff Sultanof
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> on the Gershwin/Shilkret recording of American In Paris - Feb 4 1929
>> Victor 35964
>>
>> 1-Can someone identify the trumpet soloist(s) (the bluesy part beginning
>> with part three and the "hot" sequence that opens side four)
>> 2-in the taxi horn sequence, those sure sound like authentic taxi horns -
>> any documentation that these are the ones George brought home with him?
>>
>> Rodger
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>> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 21:15:08 -0400
> From: "Thomas Stern" <sternth at attglobal.net>
> Subject: [78-L] Retrospective CD-Rs - Nimbus
> To: "78-L at 78online. Com" <78-l at 78online.com>
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> Just noticed a CD of Music Hall material on the RETROSPECTIVE label(UK) - seem to be connected with NIMBUS. This release is
> CD-R.
> Similar to the OLD TIMES label mining the old ASV-Living Era material....
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> https://www.retrospective-records.co.uk/index_secure.html
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> Anyone have further information about
> their releases, marketing success, and future plans??
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> Thanks, Thomas.
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 21:29:38 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Retrospective CD-Rs - Nimbus
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> Retrospective is reissuing a lot of the Living Era catalogue. These are
> authorized issues (unlike a Living Era that turned up on another label not long
> ago, with the original artwork..Ray Crick knew nothing about that one but he's
> connected with Retropspective).
>
> dl
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> On 7/2/2011 9:15 PM, Thomas Stern wrote:
>> Just noticed a CD of Music Hall material on the RETROSPECTIVE label(UK) - seem to be connected with NIMBUS. This release is
>> CD-R.
>> Similar to the OLD TIMES label mining the old ASV-Living Era material....
>>
>> https://www.retrospective-records.co.uk/index_secure.html
>>
>> Anyone have further information about
>> their releases, marketing success, and future plans??
>>
>> Thanks, Thomas.
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:25:14 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] two or three questions about Gershwin/Shilkret
> American in Paris
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
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> In the Memorial Concert at the Hollywood Bowl, believe it or not somebody used
> a klaxon horn. (And if you need persuading, I still have a case of CDs of that
> concert.)
>
> dl
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> On 7/2/2011 8:01 PM, Jeff Sultanof wrote:
>> Those taxi horns were the ones that Gershwin obtained. The Shilkret
>> recording was too important not to have them. Gershwin was at the recording
>> session and played the celeste part.
>>
>> No idea who the trumpet player is. Doesn't RCA have a personnel listing?
>>
>> Jeff Sultanof
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rodger Holtin<rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> on the Gershwin/Shilkret recording of American In Paris - Feb 4 1929
>>> Victor 35964
>>>
>>> 1-Can someone identify the trumpet soloist(s) (the bluesy part beginning
>>> with part three and the "hot" sequence that opens side four)
>>> 2-in the taxi horn sequence, those sure sound like authentic taxi horns -
>>> any documentation that these are the ones George brought home with him?
>>>
>>> Rodger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>>>
>>>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 19:49:56 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] trumpeters on Gershwin/Shilkret American in Paris?
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> Maybe RCA does have personnel listed, but I can't find it on the ol' 'net.? Rust is no help on this because it's neither a jazz nor dance band record, so he doesn't list it in those tomes; the Victor Master Book Vol 2 shows instrumentation and says Gershwin plays piano and celeste, ditto his 1976 Compleat Entertainment Discography.? Wikipedia says the Victor Symphony was drawn from the Philadelphia Symphony.? That's as close as I've been able to get to finding out who played the trumpet passages.? Anybody out there got any clues, I'd love to hear 'em.
>
> Rodger
>
>
>
> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>
>
>
> .
>
> --- On Sat, 7/2/11, Jeff Sultanof <jeffsultanof at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jeff Sultanof <jeffsultanof at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] two or three questions about Gershwin/Shilkret American in Paris
> To: "78-L Mail List" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 7:01 PM
>
> Those taxi horns were the ones that Gershwin obtained. The Shilkret
> recording was too important not to have them. Gershwin was at the recording
> session and played the celeste part.
>
> No idea who the trumpet player is. Doesn't RCA have a personnel listing?
>
> Jeff Sultanof
>
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rodger Holtin <rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> ? on the Gershwin/Shilkret recording of American In Paris - Feb 4 1929
>> Victor 35964
>>
>> 1-Can someone identify the trumpet soloist(s) (the bluesy part beginning
>> with part three and the "hot" sequence that opens side four)
>> 2-in the taxi horn sequence, those sure sound like authentic taxi horns -
>> any documentation that these are the ones George brought home with him?
>>
>> Rodger
>>
>>
>>
>> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>>
>>
>>
>> .
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2011 22:57:54 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] trumpeters on Gershwin/Shilkret American in Paris?
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP40CFB2E6DD1029A3288BA9BD5D0 at phx.gbl>
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> I'm pretty sure the Victor Symphony Orchestra was the Philadelphia at a much
> later date, not 1929 (the late 30s black label Victors are definitely played by
> the Philadelphians). I've forwarded the original message to Nat's grandson,
> Niel Shell.
>
> dl
>
> On 7/2/2011 10:49 PM, Rodger Holtin wrote:
>> Maybe RCA does have personnel listed, but I can't find it on the ol' 'net. Rust is no help on this because it's neither a jazz nor dance band record, so he doesn't list it in those tomes; the Victor Master Book Vol 2 shows instrumentation and says Gershwin plays piano and celeste, ditto his 1976 Compleat Entertainment Discography. Wikipedia says the Victor Symphony was drawn from the Philadelphia Symphony. That's as close as I've been able to get to finding out who played the trumpet passages. Anybody out there got any clues, I'd love to hear 'em.
>>
>> Rodger
>>
>>
>>
>> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> --- On Sat, 7/2/11, Jeff Sultanof<jeffsultanof at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Jeff Sultanof<jeffsultanof at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] two or three questions about Gershwin/Shilkret American in Paris
>> To: "78-L Mail List"<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Date: Saturday, July 2, 2011, 7:01 PM
>>
>> Those taxi horns were the ones that Gershwin obtained. The Shilkret
>> recording was too important not to have them. Gershwin was at the recording
>> session and played the celeste part.
>>
>> No idea who the trumpet player is. Doesn't RCA have a personnel listing?
>>
>> Jeff Sultanof
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Rodger Holtin<rjh334578 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> on the Gershwin/Shilkret recording of American In Paris - Feb 4 1929
>>> Victor 35964
>>>
>>> 1-Can someone identify the trumpet soloist(s) (the bluesy part beginning
>>> with part three and the "hot" sequence that opens side four)
>>> 2-in the taxi horn sequence, those sure sound like authentic taxi horns -
>>> any documentation that these are the ones George brought home with him?
>>>
>>> Rodger
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For Best Results use Victor Needles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:48:21 -0700
> From: "Ron Fial" <ron at fial.com>
> Subject: [78-L] test
> To: <78-L at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <1EA572C793FB4D2984814389DD86FC5D at fial.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> test from Ron Fial
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:52:09 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] test
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP796E2AD7EA767A5E50AA66BD5F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> Loud and clear.
>
> dl
>
> On 7/5/2011 5:48 PM, Ron Fial wrote:
>> test from Ron Fial
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:29:45 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [78-L] Anyone ever seen this record?
> To: 78L <78-L at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP29F9B0C164E9CD032FBEB5BD5D0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> I was looking up the singles listing for ERA Records (trying to determine
> whether The Zanies' "The Blob" ever appeared on that label as well as on Dore,
> since the Canadian issue is ERA 1075) and discovered this title, which is
> absolutely unknown to me:
>
> 1012
> Daws Butler
> The Sixty Four Million Dollar Question/Con-Fidgity-Ential 1956
>
> Zowie! A Daws Butler record, independent of Stan Freberg? (Or was he involved?)
> Anyone know anything about this?
>
> dl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 18
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 16:04:04 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [78-L] Oldest Recording on a V-Disc?
> To: 78L <78-L at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP139E4EF33E4A3744EB2EC6BD5D0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> Anyone got an older candidate than this? V-Disc 51 Side B, Paul Robeson "Deep
> River" and "I'm Goin' to Tell God My Troubles"..despite a rumored V-Disc
> session referred to in the V-Disc Book, both sides are definitely from Victor
> 20793 recorded in 1927.
>
> dl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 21:16:24 +0000
> From: David Lewis <uncledavelewis at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Helloooooooo!
> To: 78-l <78-l at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY156-w3882FD80CC1272E725635ECC5C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Are we down yet?
>
> Uncle Dave Lewis
> uncledavelewis at hotmail.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 20
> Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 10:49:04 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: [78-L] Test
> To: 78L <78-L at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP950918146EFC9AD3EB8A70BD5D0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> Testing. 1-2-3 woof.
>
> dl
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 12:08:34 -0400
> From: Steve Ramm <steveramm78l at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Hot Fives and Sevens set on sale
> To: 78-l 78-l <78-l at 78online.com>
> Message-ID: <COL124-W293D80680E7964ADC22BC4CE5C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> For the few folks who don't have this set, this is a good ONE DAY deal:
>
> http://sony-m.neolane.net/nl/jsp/m.jsp?c=9cf651bfd6ca98b2b1
>
> It is at the TOP of my Desert Island Discs (Pet Sounds and "The 86 years of Eubie Blake" are two others on my DID lists)
>
> Steve Ramm
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 17:59:36 -0400
> From: David Lennick <dlennick at sympatico.ca>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Anyone ever seen this record?
> To: 78-L Mail List <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP146BA38D380C74E884D241BD5F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed
>
> Aaargh..this finally shows up (now that 78-L is back among the living) and of
> course I goofed..The Blob is Era 1080, not 1075.
>
> On 7/3/2011 10:29 AM, David Lennick wrote:
>> I was looking up the singles listing for ERA Records (trying to determine
>> whether The Zanies' "The Blob" ever appeared on that label as well as on Dore,
>> since the Canadian issue is ERA 1075) and discovered this title, which is
>> absolutely unknown to me:
>>
>> 1012
>> Daws Butler
>> The Sixty Four Million Dollar Question/Con-Fidgity-Ential 1956
>>
>> Zowie! A Daws Butler record, independent of Stan Freberg? (Or was he involved?)
>> Anyone know anything about this?
>>
>> dl
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 13:24:10 -0400
> From: Don Chichester <dnjchi78 at live.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Arion label 78 disc
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <COL103-W12C06A891D88862C8B0A88AE5F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> Today I picked up a 12" 78 at the SA (in the LP section!) of Arion 530. Data:
>
> Arion 530 A (6592) "St. Philiper" Waltzer C. Metterle Kapelle, New York
>
> B (6590) "Bienenhaus" Polka C. Meterle Kapelle, New York
>
> red label with oval insert at top of musicians playing various instruments;
> Arion across the center;
> at bottom: Arion Record Import Philadelphia, PA.
>
> Anyone have info on this label.disc?
>
> Don Chichester
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:13:47 -0400
> From: "Tim McCormick" <Dad at TheMcCormicks.com>
> Subject: [78-L] Request information on Bohumir Kryl - cornetist
> To: "'78-L Mail List'" <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <007101cc3b47$ab57b330$02071990$@com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Folks,
>
> I need some help locating information on Bohumir Kryl. Not only was
> he a cornet player for the John Phillip Sousa band (I am told he played
> first cornet), but he was also a master stone mason prior to his musical
> career and carved all of the limestone at our local General Lew Wallace
> Study in Crawfordsville, IN. ( www.ben-hur.com )
>
> Any information would be most appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
> Tim McCormick, President
> Michigan Antique Phonograph Society
> www.MAPS-ITG.org
> President at MAPS-ITG.org
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 25
> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 00:03:16 +0200
> From: Patrick Humbert <patrick_humbert at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Request information on Bohumir Kryl - cornetist
> To: <78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> Message-ID: <SNT141-w515A75599191853316B605975F0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
> I know that this cornet player made some recordings for Edison ..... I think I introduces him in my radio program a long time ago.
> The recordings came from the Edison Curator, Jerry Febris.
> Patrick Humbert
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Dad at TheMcCormicks.com
>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
>> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 15:13:47 -0400
>> Subject: [78-L] Request information on Bohumir Kryl - cornetist
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I need some help locating information on Bohumir Kryl. Not only was
>> he a cornet player for the John Phillip Sousa band (I am told he played
>> first cornet), but he was also a master stone mason prior to his musical
>> career and carved all of the limestone at our local General Lew Wallace
>> Study in Crawfordsville, IN. ( www.ben-hur.com )
>>
>> Any information would be most appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Tim McCormick, President
>> Michigan Antique Phonograph Society
>> www.MAPS-ITG.org
>> President at MAPS-ITG.org
>>
>>
>>
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>
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