[78-L] A question of release dates

Nicholas Fernandez nhf202 at gmail.com
Mon Jun 13 06:39:09 PDT 2011


And the Washington post reviewed the album on Sept. 4, so it was available for purchase by then. I just wish I could narrow down whether it was released in august, or the review was quick and that it was released at the start of September. 

Nick

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On Jun 13, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Han Enderman <jcenderman at solcon.nl> wrote:

> Vic Album P-182 (= 20-2324/27) contains Summer 1946 recordings (Transblucency 
> recd 9 Jul 46, some others 3 Sep), but was issued much later.
> Vic 20-2314 is Basie's Jungle King, recd 22 May 1947 and thus released after June 1947.
> This makes ca. Aug 1947 the earliest possible release date for the Duke album.
> Is it possible that the Victor recordings were not issued at first due to a Musicraft contract?
> 
> The orig. message said:
> "My research so far has the first one as being released in late August  
> or early September 1947" 
> and though this was wrong for the 2EP set mentioned, it might be the release date of the
> 78rpm album.
> I assume that the 78 album is mentioned in the online Billboard, and maybe someone can
> consult Billboard.
> 
> han enderman
> ===
>>>> I'm new to this list and hoping to find someone who knows something  
> about a listing of 78 release dates. I have been able to find  
> recording dates for these sessions, but release dates seem to be much  
> more elusive. Thanks in advance for any help!
> 
> 1: Victor EPB 3067
> Duke Ellington plays the blues
> 
> 2. Victor 20-2326 (78A)
> Beale Street blues ; Transblucency (a blue fog that you can almost see  
> through)
> Work(s)  Beale Street blues / W.C. Handy. Transblucency (a blue fog  
> that you can almost see through) /
> Physical Item   Victor 20-2326 (78A). 1 sound disc : 78 rpm, mono ; 10- 
> inch, standard (shellac) : Victor (20-2326)
> 
> My research so far has the first one as being released in late August  
> or early September 1947 and the second as being released sometime  
> after August 1946.
> 
> Any help in narrowing this down or resources to find the information  
> would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Nick 
> -----
> Duke Ellington Plays the Blues was originally a 78 album released in 1947 
> (including 20-2326), and transferred to LP and 45 EP probably in 1952. 
> Information from the American Record Label Directory (supposed to be coming 
> back into print or online, I think). Matrix numbers are often a guide to 
> determining when an album was mastered, with release usually within a few 
> months to a year, but that takes a while to learn how to decipher.
> 
> "Both Sides Now" is a great source for info on many record labels
> http://www.bsnpubs.com/index.html
> but RCA Victor isn't there, as far as I can see. A work in progress.
> 
> dl
> -----
> A lot of us rely on catalogues, supplements, articles in Billboard, dates when 
> hit records charted (which is something Whitburn IS good for), dating 
> guides..all in combination. Is there an actual database for the release date of 
> Every Freakin' Record Ever Made?
> -----
> RCA EPB-3067 is a gatefold 45rpm 2 EP set, and thus post-1948.
> It was also issued as Victor 78rpm album P-182 and as a 10" LP, and 
> poss. the 1947 date refers to the 78 album.
> <<<
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