[78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP

[Patrick Humbert]

I'm not sure it's Bar Harbor Society on this recording, it's not a vocal refrain, it's a whole vocal recorded with a studio band (maybe led by Ben Selvin ???) or Fred Rich but it's a small recording band. 

Patrick   Humbert 







> Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 16:32:32 -0400
> From: dlennick at sympatico.ca
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP
> 
> If it's Harmony (etc) 895H, Bar Harbor Society Orchestra with "Robert Wood" 
> (Irving Kaufman), it was recorded on April 8, 1929, a day that also saw 
> sessions by Andy Sannella, Ruth Etting, Ben Selvin, and dance band sides under 
> various names (all nominally led by Irving Brodsky) with consecutive matrix 
> numbers from 138186 to 148199. The full price Columbia artists alternate with 
> the dime store recordings, so I somehow doubt that Columbia would have assigned 
> two or three matrix numbers at a time to a studio using the acoustic recorders. 
> But I could be wrong. For that matter, Kaufman also recorded Pagan Love Song on 
> April 22nd, but according to the Columbia books, only the non-vocal sides from 
> that session were issued. And just to further the confusion, Kaufman recorded 
> it a third time under his own name on Harmony 896H, May 28 1929, a day that 
> also saw full price Columbias by Clarence Williams and Sonny Greer's 
> orchestras, so again it seems likely that the electrical equipment was in use.
> 
> dl
> 
> On 5/28/2011 4:21 PM, Taylor Bowie wrote:
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > Just to clarify...you have played a copy of the actual 78 and it is the same
> > track which is on the LP?
> >
> > Thanks from
> >
> > Taylor
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Humbert"<patrick_humbert at hotmail.com>
> > To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 1:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP
> >
> >
> >>
> >> There's no doubt, Taylor, it's an electric recording !!
> >>
> >> Patrick   Humbert
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> >>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 18:43:53 -0700
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,  Patrick.  My questions are two,  and I need someone who has a
> >>> copy
> >>> of the Harmony to tell me:
> >>>
> >>> Is the Harmony issue electric as is the record on the LP?
> >>>
> >>> If it's not the version on the LP,  did they just make a switch and then
> >>> used the Romeo version because it sounded better?
> >>>
> >>> I recall that there are only two non-electric vocals in the set...the
> >>> Cliff
> >>> Edwards and the Blossom Seeley cuts.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks from
> >>>
> >>> Taylor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Patrick Humbert"<patrick_humbert at hotmail.com>
> >>> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 6:38 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have this recording , he's great but I don't think I have any
> >>>> informations, but anyway, you can have a look on my discography of
> >>>> Irving
> >>>> :
> >>>> http://patrickhumbert.com/irvingkaufmandiscography/IK.html
> >>>> Cheers, Irving Fan !
> >>>>
> >>>> Patrick   Humbert
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: bowiebks at isomedia.com
> >>>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>>> Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 17:33:08 -0700
> >>>>> Subject: [78-L] Kaufman's Pagan Love Song on LP
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My LPs are in various nooks and crannies and I'm unable to locate my
> >>>>> set
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> that old Columbia LP warhorse set   "The Original Sounds of the
> >>>>> Twenties,"
> >>>>> but maybe one of you can provide me with the info.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> One cut on the thing is a wonderful electric recording of Irving
> >>>>> Kaufman
> >>>>> singing Pagan Love Song.   As I recall,  the notes in the booklet
> >>>>> state
> >>>>> that
> >>>>> it's from an 800- or 900-series Harmony.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If memory serves,  some years ago I found the Kaufman  Harmony and it
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> the typical acoustic recording of the era...not the version on the LP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just the other day I got Romeo 979 by Kaufman (as "Harry Smith") of
> >>>>> Pagan
> >>>>> Love Song...and I swear that this is the version which is on the LP
> >>>>> set!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Can anyone confirm,  deny,  belittle,  or congatulate me on my
> >>>>> suspicion
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> conclusion?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BTW,  the "Harry Smith" from this era of "Is It A Sin" has a
> >>>>> tremendous
> >>>>> jazz
> >>>>> group backing up Irving...there are at least two very different takes
> >>>>> on
> >>>>> Romeo and Cameo,   and maybe a third version on Perfect (under K's
> >>>>> real
> >>>>> name).
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks from
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Taylor
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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