[78-L] Timely Tune find

Cary Ginell soundthink at live.com
Wed May 18 13:25:04 PDT 2011


I have the Devall and the Jim New (a pseudonym for Newton Gaines). Besides the Nawahi, the only other one I have is by Ben Friedman's Paramount Hotel Orch. b/w Dave's Harlem Highlights, which has a 10-groove rim flake on one side. Yes, I would put them in the category of hen's teeth rarities, although not nearly as rare as the RCA Victor Sunrise and the early black-on-blue Bluebird items, of which I have one each and have never seen another in circulation.

Cary Ginell

> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:11:05 -0700
> From: nickjay49 at gmail.com
> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> Subject: Re: [78-L] Timely Tune find
> 
> Timely Tunes #C-1563 Dick Devall Barroom sold on eBay for $175 last fall...
> 
> 
> Dennis Flannigan wrote:
> > Suddenly, the only Timley Tunes in my collection, cracked badly, but
> > playable on one side looks like an auction posting. WhoWouldaThot?
> >
> > df
> >
> > On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:00 PM,<78-l-request at klickitat.78online.com>wrote:
> >
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> >>    1. Re:  Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes (Steve Williams)
> >>    2. Re:  Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes (Cary Ginell)
> >>    3. Re:  ARSC conference proceedings (Michael Biel)
> >>    4.  Timely Tunes (Glenn Longwell)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:10:47 -0400
> >> From: "Steve Williams"<jazzhunter at collector.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes
> >> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Message-ID:<001e01cc157e$8886f3f0$9994dbd0$@org>
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> >>
> >> That's the one record I would have bid on also.  Congratulations!  Sounds
> >> like it was less terrible than it might have been, - and alternate
> >> takes.......
> >>
> >> ..Steve Williams  ..
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:50:14 -0700
> >> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >> Subject: [78-L] Frederick Tussey
> >> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Message-ID:<BLU142-W23D68DAC50FC4A2DB7C940B08C0 at phx.gbl>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>
> >> Just got the Timely Tunes 78 that I won from Frederick Tussey on eBay (by
> >> King's Hawaiians, a pseudonym for (King) Bennie Nawahi - It was described
> >> as
> >> being in "VG" condition, but was sold "as is". I took a calculated risk on
> >> this record, so I am not going to return it, but both sides are closer to
> >> G.
> >> Heavy graying of grooves with surface-noise-to-music ratio being about
> >> 60/40. Just a word to the wise to anyone interested in bidding on his
> >> records. He either overgrades or - and I believe the latter is the case -
> >> he
> >> doesn't know the first thing about grading (or spelling, I might add),
> >> which
> >> is why he couches his descriptions in all kinds of caveats. I'm not
> >> returning the record because, as Malcolm informed me, both sides are
> >> alternate takes available only on TT. I have the first takes on a
> >> Montgomery
> >> Ward in E condition, so I'm fine with having this one, even at the price I
> >> paid for a record several grades below how it was described.
> >>
> >> His packing, incidentally, was excellent.
> >>
> >> Cary Ginell
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 2
> >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:39:57 -0700
> >> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes
> >> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Message-ID:<BLU142-W12AF2DB20205701642F4DBB08F0 at phx.gbl>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >>
> >> After running it through an equalizer, it's actually not so bad. No
> >> distortion, just surface wear. And you can't quibble about any Timely Tunes
> >> acquisition, because it's not likely to turn up again anytime soon.
> >>
> >> Cary Ginell
> >>
> >>      
> >>> From: jazzhunter at collector.org
> >>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:10:47 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes
> >>>
> >>> That's the one record I would have bid on also.  Congratulations!  Sounds
> >>> like it was less terrible than it might have been, - and alternate
> >>> takes.......
> >>>
> >>> ..Steve Williams  ..
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:50:14 -0700
> >>> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >>> Subject: [78-L] Frederick Tussey
> >>> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>> Message-ID:<BLU142-W23D68DAC50FC4A2DB7C940B08C0 at phx.gbl>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just got the Timely Tunes 78 that I won from Frederick Tussey on eBay (by
> >>> King's Hawaiians, a pseudonym for (King) Bennie Nawahi - It was described
> >>>        
> >> as
> >>      
> >>> being in "VG" condition, but was sold "as is". I took a calculated risk
> >>>        
> >> on
> >>      
> >>> this record, so I am not going to return it, but both sides are closer to
> >>>        
> >> G.
> >>      
> >>> Heavy graying of grooves with surface-noise-to-music ratio being about
> >>> 60/40. Just a word to the wise to anyone interested in bidding on his
> >>> records. He either overgrades or - and I believe the latter is the case -
> >>>        
> >> he
> >>      
> >>> doesn't know the first thing about grading (or spelling, I might add),
> >>>        
> >> which
> >>      
> >>> is why he couches his descriptions in all kinds of caveats. I'm not
> >>> returning the record because, as Malcolm informed me, both sides are
> >>> alternate takes available only on TT. I have the first takes on a
> >>>        
> >> Montgomery
> >>      
> >>> Ward in E condition, so I'm fine with having this one, even at the price
> >>>        
> >> I
> >>      
> >>> paid for a record several grades below how it was described.
> >>>
> >>> His packing, incidentally, was excellent.
> >>>
> >>> Cary Ginell
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 3
> >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:49:17 -0400
> >> From: Michael Biel<mbiel at mbiel.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] ARSC conference proceedings
> >> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Message-ID:<4DD4069D.9070709 at mbiel.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> On 5/17/2011 10:54 PM, Steve Ramm wrote:
> >>      
> >>> Mike: traditionally they are available on the web site by September. And
> >>>        
> >> only those where permission was received from the speaker.
> >>      
> >>> Steve
> >>>        
> >> This year the clearances were built into the agreement to do the
> >> presentation, so ALL should be pre-cleared for distribution.
> >>
> >> Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
> >>      
> >>>        
> >>>> From: mikedaley at gmail.com
> >>>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 14:29:08 -0400
> >>>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>>> Subject: [78-L] ARSC conference proceedings
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know if recordings/texts of the presentations will be
> >>>>          
> >> available online at any point?
> >>      
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Mike Daley
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>          
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> >> ------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
> >> From: Glenn Longwell<glongwell at snet.net>
> >> Subject: [78-L] Timely Tunes
> >> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >> Message-ID:<198633.85044.qm at web82108.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >>
> >> I know they don't turn up that often but are they really that rare? Do we
> >> know what sort of pressing runs were done with these before RCA killed it?
> >>
> >> My only Timely Tunes came in an ebay win where the seller was selling off a
> >> lot of probably a dozen discs and a Jim New Timely Tunes disc was in there.?
> >> Unfortunately it was cracked but playable.? Technically, with average per
> >> record it was less than $2.
> >>
> >> Glenn
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 5/18/11, Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>  wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [78-L] Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes
> >> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 1:39 PM
> >>
> >>
> >> After running it through an equalizer, it's actually not so bad. No
> >> distortion, just surface wear. And you can't quibble about any Timely Tunes
> >> acquisition, because it's not likely to turn up again anytime soon.
> >>
> >> Cary Ginell
> >>
> >>      
> >>> From: jazzhunter at collector.org
> >>> To: 78-l at klickitat.78online.com
> >>> Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 13:10:47 -0400
> >>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Frederick Tussey Timely Tunes
> >>>
> >>> That's the one record I would have bid on also.? Congratulations!? Sounds
> >>> like it was less terrible than it might have been, - and alternate
> >>> takes.......
> >>>
> >>> ..Steve Williams? ..
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> Message: 3
> >>> Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:50:14 -0700
> >>> From: Cary Ginell<soundthink at live.com>
> >>> Subject: [78-L] Frederick Tussey
> >>> To:<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
> >>> Message-ID:<BLU142-W23D68DAC50FC4A2DB7C940B08C0 at phx.gbl>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just got the Timely Tunes 78 that I won from Frederick Tussey on eBay (by
> >>> King's Hawaiians, a pseudonym for (King) Bennie Nawahi - It was described
> >>>        
> >> as
> >>      
> >>> being in "VG" condition, but was sold "as is". I took a calculated risk
> >>>        
> >> on
> >>      
> >>> this record, so I am not going to return it, but both sides are closer to
> >>>        
> >> G.
> >>      
> >>> Heavy graying of grooves with surface-noise-to-music ratio being about
> >>> 60/40. Just a word to the wise to anyone interested in bidding on his
> >>> records. He either overgrades or - and I believe the latter is the case -
> >>>        
> >> he
> >>      
> >>> doesn't know the first thing about grading (or spelling, I might add),
> >>>        
> >> which
> >>      
> >>> is why he couches his descriptions in all kinds of caveats. I'm not
> >>> returning the record because, as Malcolm informed me, both sides are
> >>> alternate takes available only on TT. I have the first takes on a
> >>>        
> >> Montgomery
> >>      
> >>> Ward in E condition, so I'm fine with having this one, even at the price
> >>>        
> >> I
> >>      
> >>> paid for a record several grades below how it was described.
> >>>
> >>> His packing, incidentally, was excellent.
> >>>
> >>> Cary Ginell
> >>> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???
> >>>
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