[78-L] Beach Boys 78

[Royal Pemberton]

Which was something I've wondered about the track 'Gene Autry: a foxtrot' on
the WOW album by Moby Grape.  It's for playback at 78, but is a track unto
itself.  The other tracks on that side are all 33 1/3 of course with the
last track ending in a locked groove.  You have to manually move the tonearm
to play GA in addition to switching the speed to 78.26.  However, the end of
GA ends in the typical leadout spiral just like the other side of the
LP....it looks to me like they actually prepared a very slowed-down dub of
GA so that it could be cut at 33 1/3 and give correct pitch played at
78.26.  (I experimented with this once and determined it had to be slowed
down something like 17.5% slower than half speed for this to work.)

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Michael Biel <mbiel at mbiel.com> wrote:

> On 4/22/2011 11:54 AM, agp wrote:
> > At 15:07 22/04/2011, DB wrote:
> >> I just received my copies of "Good Vibrations" on 78 and although
> >> it's spinning
> >> in shining splendour on my Credenza, I thought I should find out some
> >> information before I lower the arm onto it.
> >>
> >> 1 What size stylus do I use to play it?
> >
> > I think it is microgroove
> >
> >
>
> If that is the case, I would recommend for your Credenza that you use
> the special orand shank chromium needles that RCA recommended for their
> Long Playing Program Transcriptions.   (I'm kidding of course, because I
> am assuming YOU are kidding!!)
>
> >> 2 It supposedly had a run of 5,000 but one of mine is numbered
> >> 6965?  (I know,
> >> that doesn't sound like a question.)
> > I hear there is going to be a convention in LA of everyone having
> > that particular number. Seriously, I wonder if they randomised the
> > numbers so as to make it difficult to get the lowest number -- as in
> > the Beatles' White Album -- Serial Number 1
> >
>
> I did see one of the ebay records with a photo that included a number in
> the five hundreds.   I also had seen the 5000 pressing run cited and
> tried to get the set with number 4995 someone was selling, then I saw a
> few with numbers in the low 5000s.  I was thinking that maybe they had
> really pressed 6000 but with your number of nearly 7000, who knows???
>
> >> 3 Why in the world does it say on the label "Vocal group with Theremin"?
> > Somehow this sounds like retro-sillies. I'm surprised it doesn't also
> > say 'Foxtrot' or 'Jaunty Two Step' a la non-contemporary 78s.
> >
>
> Bump and grind?
>
> > I am curious about the actual disc configuration. For example, What
> > size and style label did they use -- lp size or 10 inch size. If they
> > used a 78/ 10-inch style label, is the landing area for the label
> > larger than the label (lp size).
> >
>
> This was nicely answered in another posting by Royal, but I am
> interested in a MORE vital question: Were the master lacquers actually
> cut at 78????  Do they have a lathe turntable still in operation that
> actually spins at 78.26??  I bet the cut it at 33 or 45 and transposed
> the recording down while cutting.  I have not gotten my copies yet to
> check, but I wonder if the accurately pitxch out at 78.26.  Not 78.00
> but 78.26.
>
> Mike Biel  mbiel at mbiel.com
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