[78-L] of Black Patti & Buddy 8000s

Steven C. Barr stevenc at interlinks.net
Mon Apr 4 17:39:25 PDT 2011


From: "Malcolm Rockwell" <malcolm at 78data.com>
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>I just now finished up a massive all day update to my (Gennett) Black
> Patti & Buddy lists while cross-referencing back to the main Gennett
> discography ledger lists. There are quite a few Buddy records that are
> still missing and most of the available sources such as Settlemier and
> Abrams (and others) are not showing them.
> If anyone has any of the following Buddys I would appreciate the issue
> numbers/side letters, artist, and title data so I can attempt completion:
> 8006, 8009, 8013(), 8022(), 8026, 8027, 8028, 8029, 8036,
> 8038, 8039, 8040, 8042(), 8043, 8045, 8047, 8048, 8050, 8054,
> 8056, 8057, 8058, 8059, 8060, 8064, 8065, 8067, 8069()
>
> There are also a number of Black Patti's that do not come from known
> Gennett sessions. The assumption has been that they were recorded in
> Chicago by Mayo Williams, possibly for Paramount, but my Paramount
> sources say no. And so far Gennett has no record of having recorded
> them, either, even though many of the artists are the same as those
> appearing on other Gennett recorded Black Patti issues.
> Who else might have been recording blues in Chicago in 1927 that these
> masters may have come from? I can't see the big guys supplying little
> ol' Gennett and by the time the Black Patti label came on the scene
> Marsh Labs was pretty much out of the picture (they had a
> recording/trade agreement with Gennett in the 20s).
> Anyhow, Black Patti issues 8029 though 8033 and also 8051 are also still
> among the missing.
> Trying to make sense out of the 8000 issue series on various labels all
> jumbled together in the ledger, or missing outright, has long been a
> hair ripper for discographers. I think I'm beginning to make some sense
> of it. And I still even have most of my hair.
>
> All help most gratefully accepted!
>
These MAY relate to Compo's Ajax label; those used basically untraced
matrices in series like 31xxx and 41xxx. It is AFAIK unk nown why Compowould 
be involved with a Chicago-related jazz label; Herbert
Berliner was no great fan of jazz/blues...!

Steven C. Barr 



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