[78-L] Question 1812 Overture

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Sat Apr 2 02:41:41 PDT 2011


Of course the players of that day didn't help either, and records aimed 
at the supermarket crowd typically, in my experience anyway, dont show 
up in such good condition. Perhaps it would be better to ask what did 
the records sound like when they were new?

I wouldn't expect much.

joe salerno

On 4/1/2011 11:16 PM, David Lennick wrote:
> The funny thing about the earliest Varsity Lps is that they were on half decent
> vinyl, even though the recording quality was the shits. They didn't have that
> sharp edge and that feeling of heavy half-plastic, half-shellac material.
> Later, of course, they were styrene.
>
> I'll dig out that 1812.
>
> dl
>
> On 4/1/2011 11:49 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>> Well I've never owned any of the Oberstein label 78's. Nothing on one yet that I
>> wanted to buy, keep&   play. On the other hand my experience with  Varsity&   most
>> other 50's era budget LP's is that they all used lower quality vinyl&   many I've
>> found have a lot of background hiss while the record is played. Oh&   what was
>> that Varsity LP like as far as sound quality? Good, fair or what? Was there much
>> hiss in it that didn't come from the 78's they were dubbed from?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 9:47:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Question 1812 Overture
>>
>> The LP. I don't have proof that the Mengelberg 1812 Overture appeared on an
>> Oberstein 78 issue (more likely on Royale, as well as Masterpiece, Philharmonic
>> and other budget labels) since WERM goes to "etc." after listing the known
>> major recordings, but the LP label refers to "Parts 1-4". Actually I don't find
>> the surfaces so terrible on Obie's 78s in the early 40s. Certainly better than
>> Decca.
>>
>> dl
>>
>> On 4/1/2011 8:34 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>> So did you sample a Varsity 78 or a Varsity LP? Oh&    whats the shellac quality
>>> of Varsity 78's like? More noisy than Victor&    Columbia 78's I'm sure.....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 6:54:23 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Question 1812 Overture
>>>
>>> I think I sampled it once to confirm that it was the same recording, but
>>> Varsity had more direct access to Telefunken 78s going back to the early 40s.
>>> So they wouldn't have lifted the Mercury transfer.
>>>
>>> dl
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2011 7:29 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>>> Yes I know the vinyl (on Varsity LP issues) is lousy. I just wanted to know
>> if
>>>> they used the Mercury transfer with the wow problem in it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>> Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 4:53:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Question 1812 Overture
>>>>
>>>> What, me listen to a Varsity issue?
>>>>
>>>> dl
>>>>
>>>> On 4/1/2011 4:57 PM, Robert M. Bratcher Jr. wrote:
>>>>> But does the wow in the recording show up in the Varsity&    related labels?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: David Lennick<dlennick at sympatico.ca>
>>>>> To: 78-L Mail List<78-l at klickitat.78online.com>
>>>>> Sent: Thu, March 31, 2011 5:35:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [78-L] Question 1812 Overture
>>>>>
>>>>> Mercury Classics dubs from Czech Masters almost ALWAYS wowed. What a waste.
>>>> And
>>>>> then they'd dub THOSE to lp rather than work from the originals again.
>>>> Although
>>>>> I remember the ten inch Mercury lp of the 1812 as sounding pretty
>>> decent..they
>>>>> didn't bother to eliminate the repeated notes between sides 2&    3 though.
>>> That
>>>>> same Mengelberg set turns up on Varsity and related labels.
>>>>>
>>>>> dl
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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