[78-L] Question 1812 Overture in 1903
Michael Biel
mbiel at mbiel.com
Thu Mar 31 22:48:28 PDT 2011
During all of this discussion in the back of my mind was the image of
the 1812 Overture on a 14-inch DeLuxe Special Victor in Fred Williams'
collection. I WAS RIGHT! Here it is in Fagen and Moran Vol One.
41008, remake of pre-matrix 2017 by the Victor Grand Concert Band. Now
the trick is to find my tape of Fred's Berliners where I finished the
evening with just a few of his 14-inchers, and see if I was smart enough
to have dubbed THIS one thirty five years ago.
So would this 1903 recording be the first? It would probably run six
minutes.
Mike Biel mbiel at mbiel.com
On 3/31/2011 12:52 PM, Philip Carli wrote:
> There's also an excellent cut version by the Band of H.M. Grenadier Guards on Columbia (2 sides) from about 1911 -- thrilling performance, presumably under Albert Williams. I have a sneaking feeling I also have that red Vocalion 12", it might be by the Scots Guards. The strange thing about it is the incomprehensible cutting which garbles the piece, although they give it 2 sides. The Columbia is quite sensibly cut and still coheres.
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> The Edison studio squoze a fraction onto a 1908 wax Amberol cylinder, # 51.
> My favorite is some military band on a 12" Aeolian-Vocalion, with a
> previous owner's helpful note on the label: "A disgrace to Tschaikowsky" !!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>>> Can someone please tell me what the first recording of the Overture
>>> 1812?
>>>
>>> Doug
>> Excerpted:
>>
>> CARLO SABAJNO& LA SCALA ORCHESTRA (1 SIDE) GRAMOPHONE 050506 (1905)
>> 4 others on European labels, 1909-1913
>>
>> Complete (reasonably):
>> LANDON RONALD, ROYAL ALBERT HALL ORCHESTRA (3 SIDES) HMV 2-0660, 2-0664&
>> 2-0674, doubled on D122/3 (1916)
>>
>> First American recordings (edited):
>> SHILKRET, VICTOR SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA (2 SIDES) VICTOR 35729 (1923)
>> SOKOLOFF, CLEVELAND ORCHESTRA (2 SIDES) BRUNSWICK 50047 (1924)
>>
>> dl
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